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Football Insider say it's Mowbray.

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Tommasi said:
Tbf I was massively disappointed at first but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. I think we just need to be pragmatic and not think emotionally.
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And that’s fine but perhaps a little bit of a compromise on an idealistic transfer policy and a bit more pragmatism on that front would make sense too. A couple of experienced championship standard players into the squad is what the previous manager wanted and it didn’t particularly appear that it was going to happen.

If we’re introducing a bit of pragmatism at one level, it might be good elsewhere too.
 

10 Gary Rowells said:
Good news. It's a massive plus that he's reportedly been at every home game. He will have a decent feel for strengths and weaknesses.
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I reckon the club knew it was on the cards Neil would just drop everything and fuck off ar some point. I know he's Harvey's mate but can't really see any other reason he'd have been there each week.
Good idea, in hindsight as he'll know how the players perform, first hand.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
If I’m not mistaken, the current rules allow us to have £39m worth of losses over a period of three years. The owners can work within that using their own cash injection. Obviously, the model is for us to not make losses and be self sufficient. But I think there might be scope for transformative capital to be injected into some parts of the club within the rules. Particularly in club infrastructure (stadium improvements, academy appointments, customer service areas).

I know there are some on the forum who don’t like the notion of people suggesting spending others money but it is actually part of the responsibility of club owners. I don’t want them doing the bare minimum if they can be doing a bit more to make it a better experience.

Transformative capital in terms of player recruitment comes with greater risks of course. Throw money at it and don’t achieve the goal of promotion and it could be problematic. I’m not suggesting that however. I think there’s a middle ground.
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Capital investment is outside FFP. However, it is immensely expensive, and usually has to be financed by external loans (cf Bristol City's redevelopment of Ashton Gate, which was initially externally funded, even though Lansdown was with £4bn at the time. He later drip fed the capital in over a period of several seasons). Given our recent history, there seems to be an understandable aversion to external finance at the moment.
 
Weremuthe said:
If TM is so fab why wasn't he snapped up by some of the other other floundering giants - out of work no compo etc?
His record is distinctly average and I think he could well be another dinosaural disaster along the lines which we've had our fill over the last decade. Speakman & co have gone with someone they know will not rock the boat.

We should back him to the hilt if he is chosen but i think we've chosen the Sunderland way again i.e. managed mediocrity, ran by a board with no love for the city or club and nothing but self-preservation in mind.
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You could say exactly the same about Alex Neil, out of work for 12 months before we snapped him up. Sean Dyce has been out of work for longer. You could actually use his work record to suggest he is fab. He has had 793 games as manager and all at decent clubs and done generally well - he's rarely been out of work. He has a win record that is better than what the last three managers had when they came in. You may not think he is fab but it appears the football world think he is and his stats would back up why.
 
10 Gary Rowells said:
You could say exactly the same about Alex Neil, out of work for 12 months before we snapped him up. Sean Dyce has been out of work for longer. You could actually use his work record to suggest he is fab. He has had 793 games as manager and all at decent clubs and done generally well - he's rarely been out of work. He has a win record that is better than what the last three managers had when they came in. You may not think he is fab but it appears the football world think he is and his stats would back up why.
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I agree. Whilst not overly enamoured at first, having looked properly at his record, its pretty good.
We need to stay-up this season and he should be able to provide that as he has generally proven.
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
Capital investment is outside FFP. However, it is immensely expensive, and usually has to be financed by external loans (cf Bristol City's redevelopment of Ashton Gate, which was initially externally funded, even though Lansdown was with £4bn at the time. He later drip fed the capital in over a period of several seasons). Given our recent history, there seems to be an understandable aversion to external finance at the moment.
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As I said, KLD and Sartori are either unwilling or incapable. Unwilling probably the answer and we could argue the rights and wrongs of that til the cows came home. I’d ask what their ultimate end goal is and what they want the club to be and look like is if they’re not willing to put in transformative capital (particularly in areas of the club concerning infrastructure which I think could be improved markedly and swiftly as a signal of intent). Are they here to make and establish Sunderland as proper club with good and modern amenities to enjoy and a team that follows suit or do they want to keep costs to a minimum in the hope they can move the club on in the not too distant future?

Probably a different debate for a different thread and one that will see plenty of heated arguments and bans!
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
I agree. Whilst not overly enamoured at first, having looked properly at his record, its pretty good.
We need to stay-up this season and he should be able to provide that as he has generally proven.
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When I first heard it on Saturday I was so underwhelmed. I think he suffers from a dour demeanour. However, his record is good, the articles suggest he plays football the 'right way' and brings on youngsters. The way WBA and Boro fans rave about does actually count for something. I am not excited but cautiously optimistic that we've signed the right lad at the right time. And I am one who was utterly dejected with both PArkinson and Johnson.
 
10 Gary Rowells said:
When I first heard it on Saturday I was so underwhelmed. I think he suffers from a dour demeanour. However, his record is good, the articles suggest he plays football the 'right way' and brings on youngsters. The way WBA and Boro fans rave about does actually count for something. I am not excited but cautiously optimistic that we've signed the right lad at the right time. And I am one who was utterly dejected with both PArkinson and Johnson.
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Not about his management. He gets a whole host of credit as a result of being a decent Boro lad and hero as a player. They’d not have him back as gaffer.
 
Sea to Shining Sea said:
Not about his management. He gets a whole host of credit as a result of being a decent Boro lad and hero as a player. They’d not have him back as gaffer.
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We've had two separate Boro fans on here and both were challenged would they take him back and both said 'yes, if Wilder was gone'. The posters on here have said he did a great job after the mayhem of Southgate and Strachan. So the Boro fans on here talk about him as a manager and not as a player and they are uniformly positive - hence my comment. Of course, if you want you can find a more negative view but what I have read on here has been really psoitive about him specifically as a manager, and the two who were challenged were unequivocal that yes they'd take him as a manager. Its stuff like that that means something.
 
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