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*** Fleetwood v Sunderland ***

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scraff said:
Lets put this in context as well, he is our f***ing CAPTAIN!! just let that sink in.
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Read earlier when he came on he ran over to Catts for the armband. Would be the last thing on my mind. On Saturday when he went off, he tossed the armband to Catts who had to pick it from the ground.
 
I only wish the passion of the fans rubbed off on the management and players to go out and get results against teams with inferior resources. After failing to beat Burton,Coventry, Peterborough, Portsmouth and now Fleetwood we are now running scared of Charlton who on recent performances will just turn up and wipe the floor with us and make Wembley of no interest to Sunderland fans. Well Mr Ross it may be that this job is beyond your capabilities and sacking managers have been damaging to SAFC in the past but if you have learned nothing over the last month, then just get on the M6 and take the M74 and give somebody else a chance on trying to get this club promoted. 3 points out of 15, with all due respect to the opposition is just not on.
 
Wearson said:
So what is it that happens
after we go one up ?
after half time ?
Any thoughts ?
We go from confidently playing the ball about to ???
What goes wrong ?
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Just my take but I suspect he's into this game management malarky. Soon as we go in front he tells the players not to push for it, to pass it around and wait for opportunities. The problem is we can't pass water and it hands the initiative straight back to the opposition. He's trying to build a footballing side out of third rate players because that's his footballing philosophy when he really should be doing a Clough and building his playing style out of the strengths of the players he has available. McGeady as our 10? Oviedo pushed way further forward? McGeoch recycling the ball in the middle. That and all our centre halves are either shit or covering defenders, we really do need someone who attacks the ball. Anyhow, it's probably another season in this division, if he's still here he should spend it wisely blooding kids and attempting to build a platform, a core of five or six totally committed players with balls who can take us forward. Without that base we look old, tired, lacking in athleticism, pace and strength and our undoubted extra quality, our footballing skills if you will, aren't good enough to compensate for the lack of it.

I forget to mention, Grigg is a total f***ing fanny.
 
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KNGHTHOOD said:
Read earlier when he came on he ran over to Catts for the armband. Would be the last thing on my mind. On Saturday when he went off, he tossed the armband to Catts who had to pick it from the ground.
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I don't want to believe this , just winding me up even more, I hate the wimpy bastard ! FTM

Don't know if anyone's already posted this but apparently Sky have picked our game for Saturday's live game, let's let the nation see how good we are ! Haha ! FTM
 
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Felt it turn tonight, the frustration in the fans is growing and it started to show tonight.

I still maintain that we are the best side in the division when we're pushing up and aggressive, but we look like a school team when we try to contain games. Pitiful 2nd half performance. We handed them the initiative by being too passive and couldn't wrestle it back. Against Fleetwood. With promotion still at stake.

Woeful.
 
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Just got the courage up to watch that second goal again, Mclaughlin should have punched that out of the park, very poor from him there.
 
Going off performances this season we don’t deserve to go up. One win in 6 towards the end of the season shows a distinct lack of bottle.

Not confident at all heading into the play offs.
 
Church said:
this is worse than last season. At least then we knew the club was being left to the dogs and relegation was inevitable quite early on - I never thought for a minute we would end up losing our bottle like we have done. The utter capitulation since winning those two games after the cup final has been dreadful. It's hard to see how we can drag our arses over the line - the players clearly don't believe in themselves.
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Kind of agree with that first line.

Failed to beat some utter utter shit this season. Bad enough Burton taking 7 points off us in 2 year but Fleetwood bastard town ffs.
 
---Nemo--- said:
Anyhow, it's probably another season in this division, if he's still here he should spend it wisely blooding kids and attempting to build a platform, a core of five or six totally committed players with balls who can take us forward. Without that base we look old, tired, lacking in athleticism, pace and strength and our undoubted extra quality, our footballing skills if you will, aren't good enough to compensate for the lack of it.

I forget to mention, Grigg is a total f***ing fanny.
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That was our strategy going into this season.

Baldwin - Peterborough's captain
Ozturk - former Hearts captain
Loovens - supposedly influential senior pro
Flanagan - experienced. Can supposedly play right across the back four
Wyke - Bradford's player of the season
Cattermole - our former captain
Oviedo - International & Premier experience
McGeady - huge amount of experience & influence
Honeyman - great attitude / 'wisely' blooding kids was your comment
Gooch - as above
Maja - as above but left
O'Nien - star player from league below
Power - experience at this level
Leadbitter - signed in Jan - fits the mould of experience + Boro former captain.

I totally agree we lack pace & strength but in terms of a committed core with experience + blooding kids, we followed exactly the kind of strategy last year you're suggesting we should take now.

For me:

Centre-half
- key position. We need a physically imposing figure (Kone would fit the bill physically) who is also a leader (that rules Kone out)
Centre-mid
- although Leadbitter is my favourite player he doesn't have the legs to play 442.
- I appreciate his attitude and hard work but I just don't think Honeyman I'd good enough and needs to go for me.
- would Ethan Robson have been a better answer than Honeyman?
- again we need a dominant physical presence
Centre-forward
- in some ways I hope Grigg's been injured cos if not his attitude stinks. Hopefully he's carrying an injury and we'll see a different player next season
- a stronger central midfield should allow us to play 2 up front with Wyke/Grigg pairing having the pedigree to tear up this division(on paper)

So that's 2 KEY players needed from me.

A centre-half and a centre-mid.
- Both in their prime(24-29).
- Both a major physical presence.
- Both with a positive 'captain's' influence on the team.
They won't come cheap but for me that's what we lack.
 
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