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rudd said:
Inertia - objects continue doing what they're doing unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. One of the simplest principles of science but apparently you know better.
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It makes no sense.
An object is always acted upon by an unbalanced force so the law is meaningless.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
I'm not pushing a flat earth.
I'm refuting a global earth and have given one very reasonable piece of evidence that anyone can do.
Just observe and test water for conforming to the container it is in and how a large body of water will be level.

You believe water curves convexly and I believe it's flat and level when calm.

You need to prove your side because your side is handed out s factual.

My side can be proven by anyone wanting to physical prove it for themselves.

And what was Newton's work?
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I never claimed a side. I said flat earthers demand irrefutable facts of non-flat earthers that they don’t demand of flat earth theory. You’ve proved my point :lol:

I believe that water obeys known laws of physics.

Are you looking to challenge Newton’s laws of motion too now?
rudd said:
Inertia - objects continue doing what they're doing unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. One of the simplest principles of science but apparently you know better.
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No…he’s going to ask you to prove it
 
Boris Bear said:
I never claimed a side. I said flat earthers demand irrefutable facts of non-flat earthers that they don’t demand of flat earth theory. You’ve proved my point :lol:

I believe that water obeys known laws of physics.

Are you looking to challenge Newton’s laws of motion too now?
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What are the known laws of physics that water obeys?

And yes I do challenge the so called laws of motion.

There is only one law and that is, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

That's it. One law, not 3, in my opinion.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
What are the known laws of physics that water obeys?

And yes I do challenge the so called laws of motion.

There is only one law and that is, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

That's it. One law, not 3, in my opinion.
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Have you heard of Dunning-Kruger effect. You’re walking proof of it
 
Nukehasslefan said:
It makes no sense.
An object is always acted upon by an unbalanced force so the law is meaningless.
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You're an idiot, seriously, an absolute moron.
Why doesn't my car float off the drive, roll down the hill or burrow into the centre of the earth if everything has an unbalanced force acting upon it? Instead, every morning when I wake up it's still there, exactly where I left it because the forces are balanced. The gradient of the hill is balanced by the brakes and gravity is equalled by the spring force of the driveway. If they weren't balanced I'd take it to get the handbrake fixed or go out for a fly in it.
Boris Bear said:
I never claimed a side. I said flat earthers demand irrefutable facts of non-flat earthers that they don’t demand of flat earth theory. You’ve proved my point :lol:

I believe that water obeys known laws of physics.

Are you looking to challenge Newton’s laws of motion too now?

No…he’s going to ask you to prove it
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It's a lazy Sunday and it's better than jet washing the patio.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
Maybe you are. Have you thought of that?
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I think I probably am to some extent but perhaps at the other end of the scale. I know enough to appreciate that I know relatively little. You on the other hand seem to understand very little in this particular field of discussion but suggest with certainty that every argument that doesn’t suit your own conclusion is without merit.

You dismiss centuries of scientific research and form conclusions with no factual basis. The scientists whose studies you would eschew dedicate their careers to the process of considering all evidence, your own included if you had any…but it seems they’re all part of a global conspiracy.
 
rudd said:
You're an idiot, seriously, an absolute moron.
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I have no issue with your thoughts.


rudd said:
Why doesn't my car float off the drive, roll down the hill or burrow into the centre of the earth if everything has an unbalanced force acting upon it?
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Why would it?


rudd said:
Instead, every morning when I wake up it's still there, exactly where I left it because the forces are balanced.
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All forces balance out but not exactly at the same time, hence the one law of equal reaction to action.



rudd said:
The gradient of the hill is balanced by the brakes and gravity is equalled by the spring force of the driveway.
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No such thing as gravity, in my opinion.
There's absolutely nothing to prove the existence of it as any force.


rudd said:
If they weren't balanced I'd take it to get the handbrake fixed or go out for a fly in it.
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Not at all.
Boris Bear said:
I think I probably am to some extent but perhaps at the other end of the scale. I know enough to appreciate that I know relatively little. You on the other hand seem to understand very little in this particular field of discussion but suggest with certainty that every argument that doesn’t suit your own conclusion is without merit.
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Maybe we all know very little until we can show facts that are acceptable as being factual.



Boris Bear said:
You dismiss centuries of scientific research and form conclusions with no factual basis.
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That depends.


Boris Bear said:
The scientists whose studies you would eschew dedicate their careers to the process of considering all evidence, your own included if you had any…but it seems they’re all part of a global conspiracy.
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Why are we still hanging onto centuries worth of research with primitive tools and minds against the technology we have today?
Does that not seem odd to you?
Why do people tell me I'm going against Newton or Galileo or Eratosthenes or Empedocles and Anaxagoras and so on and so on?

We supposedly landed on a moon with apparently 1/6th gravity and calculated it fantastically for the school model LM to land on and yet people still want to use Newton and co to argue so called laws and what not.

I dismiss it because I believe it doesn't stand up.
 
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Nukehasslefan said:
I have no issue with your thoughts.



Why would it?



All forces balance out but not exactly at the same time, hence the one law of equal reaction to action.




No such thing as gravity, in my opinion.
There's absolutely nothing to prove the existence of it as any force.



Not at all.

Maybe we all know very little until we can show facts that are acceptable as being factual.




That depends.



Why are we still hanging onto centuries worth of research with primitive tools and minds against the technology we have today?
Does that not seem odd to you?
Why do people tell me I'm going against Newton or Galileo or Eratosthenes or Empedocles and Anaxagoras and so on and so on?

We supposedly landed on a moon with apparently 1/6th gravity and calculated it fantastically for the school model LM to land on and yet people still want to use Newton and co to argue so called laws and what not.

I dismiss it because I believe it doesn't stand up.
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We don’t hang on to primitive tools and minds. That’s the thing, science is open to being disproven with new evidence…you have none but you choose to believe the earth is flat.

What do you say to the scientific experiments undertaken by flat earthers themselves using precision lasers and gyroscopes which categorically show the Earth’s curvature and that it spins?
 
Boris Bear said:
We don’t hang on to primitive tools and minds. That’s the thing, science is open to being disproven with new evidence…you have none but you choose to believe the earth is flat.
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No, I don't choose to believe the Earth is flat. You seem to have chosen that as my belief.


Boris Bear said:
What do you say to the scientific experiments undertaken by flat earthers themselves using precision lasers and gyroscopes which categorically show the Earth’s curvature and that it spins?
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None do show earth spinning and none show it to be a globe.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
No, I don't choose to believe the Earth is flat. You seem to have chosen that as my belief.



None do show earth spinning and none show it to be a globe.
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Their $20k gyroscope showed the earth ( not the ‘dome’) turning 15 degrees a hour

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Boris Bear said:
Their $20k gyroscope showed the earth ( not the ‘dome’) turning 15 degrees a hour

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You'll never prove a globe with a gyroscope.
If anything you would prove pressure movements on an earth vortex, depending on where you use it. An Earth vortex just like the jetstream as we get told.
Not on a globe but around a potential circle that is dome sealed. In my opinion of course.
 
Nukehasslefan said:
You'll never prove a globe with a gyroscope.
If anything you would prove pressure movements on an earth vortex, depending on where you use it. An Earth vortex just like the jetstream as we get told.
Not on a globe but around a potential circle that is dome sealed. In my opinion of course.
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Prove that please
 
Nukehasslefan said:
If I gave you that as factual I would prove it. I give you it as my opinion.
However, how about you prove what you're saying, unless you aren't giving me it as fact.
Are you or aren't you?
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I think it’s quite funny that people trying to disprove a curvature to the earth and a rotating earth, spending a lot of money to do so, then reject the evidence when it doesn’t suit their confirmation bias :lol::lol:
 
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