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F1 2026

Big Jeff said:
I agree. Abu Dhabi and the robbed title was his arc.

I think he should have created the biggest controversy ever and quit the sort in protest.

But that’s easy to say for me as a nobody. I sure it’s different when you are a winner.
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If he retired in 2021 he'd have missed out on earning $200m across the next four years...
 

Beau Peep said:
Lewis reporting the car is "more fun to drive, more snappy and oversteery but easier to catch"

Mercedes did exactly 500 laps, one can't help wondering if that's entirely by design. I'd say German efficiency but a) they're barely German at all and b) I also work for a large German company and it's incredibly inefficient!
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497 wasn’t it?

Apparently none of the teams ran the new sustainable bio fuel this week so those times are probably even more pointless
 
PTR said:
He could have went to Indy car and got paid a ton there, and built out his US brand, which would probably be worth more in time.
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In my view he should have left F1 after that disgraceful race when the title was stolen from him.

It would have sent shockwaves through motorsport if he left and said why.

Sadly I think the moment has gone for him but I hope I am wrong.

I suppose it all depends if Ferrari can put a great car around him.
 
L18SFC said:
497 wasn’t it?

Apparently none of the teams ran the new sustainable bio fuel this week so those times are probably even more pointless
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It shouldn't matter. Fisher Tropsch fuels take CO and H2 derived from gasified coal or biomass, or reformed gas, and make very pure long chain hydrocarbons identical to those from crude oil.

Everything else added like surfactants, aromatics (in the chemical sense... benzene rings) and oxygenates are added to whatever specification they choose, just like they would with fossil derived hydrocarbons. So they will be chemically identical.
 
Beau Peep said:
It shouldn't matter. Fisher Tropsch fuels take CO and H2 derived from gasified coal or biomass, or reformed gas, and make very pure long chain hydrocarbons identical to those from crude oil.

Everything else added like surfactants, aromatics (in the chemical sense... benzene rings) and oxygenates are added to whatever specification they choose, just like they would with fossil derived hydrocarbons. So they will be chemically identical.
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Why don’t they just use petrol. The actual impact 20 F1 cars has on the environment is tiny. They load those cars into geet big diesel trucks and aeroplanes so this faux enviro-friendly stuff is quite frankly pathetic.

Same goes for batteries. The cars sound terrible.
 
Beau Peep said:
It shouldn't matter. Fisher Tropsch fuels take CO and H2 derived from gasified coal or biomass, or reformed gas, and make very pure long chain hydrocarbons identical to those from crude oil.

Everything else added like surfactants, aromatics (in the chemical sense... benzene rings) and oxygenates are added to whatever specification they choose, just like they would with fossil derived hydrocarbons. So they will be chemically identical.
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Just saw a lot of the techy twitter types who know what they are talking about saying it could be quite significant
 
Big Jeff said:
Why don’t they just use petrol. The actual impact 20 F1 cars has on the environment is tiny. They load those cars into geet big diesel trucks and aeroplanes so this faux enviro-friendly stuff is quite frankly pathetic.

Same goes for batteries. The cars sound terrible.
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Ostensibly the fuel in 22 F1 cars is a drop in the ocean, but I think it's great for setting an example and pioneering new technologies, showing what's possible. Something that F1 has been very good at over the years.

Plus, footage from the shakedown suggests the sound is better than the previous generation of PUs. I quite like the combination of the sci-fi style high pitched electric whine behind the usual ICE engine growl.
 
Speakeasy said:
Ostensibly the fuel in 22 F1 cars is a drop in the ocean, but I think it's great for setting an example and pioneering new technologies, showing what's possible. Something that F1 has been very good at over the years.

Plus, footage from the shakedown suggests the sound is better than the previous generation of PUs. I quite like the combination of the sci-fi style high pitched electric whine behind the usual ICE engine growl.
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I’ve watched F1 for ever.

I loved the V10s. I like petrol too.

I find F1 too regulated these days. Everything is defined, regulated, mandated. It’s too clean, non controversial and sanitised. The drivers all behave the same.

The only positives I think relate to safety for drivers, mechanics and spectators which is excellent.
 
L18SFC said:
Just saw a lot of the techy twitter types who know what they are talking about saying it could be quite significant
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They probably don't understand it. I worked in business development for Fischer Tropsch catalysts and process technology for three years, as well as working before that for BP, and being a fuels and petrochemicals market analyst in between, so I probably know more about fuels than they do :lol:

It's just a very very pure straight chain hydrocarbon, there's not much to it chemically to do anything remarkable other than burn cleanly. Like the water in beer. All the benefit come from what else is in it.

Actually the process mostly produces and is tuned for diesel and jet fuel, but there's a small gasoline fraction, and you can always put heavier products through Fluid Catalytic Cracking which all refineries have, to switch to more gasoline.

Virgin Atlantic and United have flown transatlantic flights with part FT jet fuel, and they literally didn't notice any difference. You have to put the same additives in it to raise the octane level and protect the engine, which is what really increases the performance, and they won't be any different!
 
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Beau Peep said:
They probably don't understand it. I worked in business development for Fischer Tropsch catalysts and process technology for three years, as well as working before that for BP, and being a fuels and petrochemicals market analyst in between, so I probably know more about fuels than they do :lol:

It's just a very very pure straight chain hydrocarbon, there's not much to it chemically to do anything remarkable other than burn cleanly. Like the water in beer. All the benefit come from what else is in it.

Actually the process mostly produces and is tuned for diesel and jet fuel, but there's a small gasoline fraction, and you can always put heavier products through Fluid Catalytic Cracking which all refineries have, to switch to more gasoline.

Virgin Atlantic and United have flown transatlantic flights with part FT jet fuel, and they literally didn't notice any difference. You have to put the same additives in it to raise the octane level and protect the engine, which is what really increases the performance, and they won't be any different!
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Cheers, good insight!
 
The question mark over fuels is that they were certainly unhomologated, so they bacially just ran anything they wanted to, so theoretically Shell could have brought some 1992 style rocket fuel for Hamilton on the last day, or ExxonMobil could have loaded the Red Bull with higher ethanol (we all know that stuff is vile with or without vodka).

However, I don't imagine anyone would want to test anything but the standardised fuel, for the sake of data quality.
 
Mercedes season launch today at Silverstone

Been watching Ted's Barcelona shakedown last week. started of ok for 30 mins then the episode got longer each night. Friday night was an hour and 45 mins and switched it off after a while. Got sick of Craig Slater aswell always on it
 
Hetty said:
Mercedes season launch today at Silverstone

Been watching Ted's Barcelona shakedown last week. started of ok for 30 mins then the episode got longer each night. Friday night was an hour and 45 mins and switched it off after a while. Got sick of Craig Slater aswell always on it
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I don't mind Slater, and Ted was in his element on a show like that. I must say my TV is fat too big for a full screen shot of a ghostly webcam Bernie Collins but her analysis was very good. Didn't Hamilton look energised and happy on Friday though.
 
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