Everton points deduction?



Kent Boy 2 said:
Those saying nothing will happen could do worse than read all the small print in this. Only 2 clubs have been referred under this rule in the history of the PL - City and Everton. Referring to the independent commission by the PL is a bit like VAR asking the ref to go look at the monitor - the offence has happened, the penalty will occur eventually. The ‘lesser’ penalty is a points deduction. These are rules developed, managed and agreed to by all PL shareholders (equal shares are owned by the 20 clubs in the league at any point). It takes 14 shareholder votes to refer a club to the independent financial body, so 14 clubs have already voted to refer both City and Everton. Penalties given for this rule only apply in the season the ruling eventually happens - it will not happen in either case this season (if either are relegated then the clock resets). The independent financial body has no link to any of the PL clubs and is appointed by a vote of 14 or more members as an impartial body. The findings of the independent financial body will then be translated into a penalty by pre-agreed PL rules (signed up to by all 20 clubs as a condition of their membership) and the 20 members will vote to enforce the penalty. Unlike UEFA, there is no time limit on PL financial offences, so City have 9 seasons of offences under investigation, Everton now have 4 seasons under investigation (potentially reduced to 1 as the PL members voted an abstinence for them last year due to COVID). Apparently, 18 clubs have stated that if City are found guilty of breaches by the independent financial body in more than 5 of the 9 seasons under review, the maximum penalty (expulsion from membership for at least one season) is enforced - UTD are the only club who have not expressed an opinion. Remember, if Everton are relegated and come back up the following season, all of their previous offences are wiped.
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It might be in Everton best interest to go down this season…
 
DrewC said:
It might be in Everton best interest to go down this season…
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It might be. I think Everton’s case might be sorted earlier than City’s. It took 4 years for the PL investigation to warrant proposal to refer to the independent financial body, and there are 100 alleged breaches - for City. Also many of the alleged breaches are hidden technicalities such as over inflated sponsorship deals with their owner. It only took a few months for Everton - and the alleged breaches are there to see in their public accounts I.e. they have lost more money over 2 consecutive rolling 3 year periods than Premier League rules allow. It will be much easier to prove if Everton have broken rules. On the flip side a potential penalty will not be as severe. The overall charge against City is one of alleged systematic financial ‘doping’ over 9 seasons. The overall charge against Everton is basically one of being a very poorly run business over 4 seasons, and they aren’t contesting that - they are claiming mitigations from COVID, unexpected cost of living / inflation increases, and financing of their new stadium.
 
Kent Boy 2 said:
Depends whether they have 4 seasons or 1 season reviewed. The result of the former could be a big fine and a big points deduction (probably resulting in relegation unless they have an upturn in the form of recent seasons), the result of the later could be a small fine and a minimal points deduction (which they could see out without going down). City are a little bit jiggered either way.
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Could potentially be fireworks next season then, Everton with a massive points doc (assuming they haven't been relegated this time), and City kicked out for let's say 2 years. 18 clubs voting for action against City, I wonder how many will be banging on Masters door over the legally binding falsehoods which allowed the mags deal to proceed.
 

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