Europa Home Games

[brains]

We’ve got one thread on here suggesting we could take 10/15,000 away from home with the majority not having tickets then people on here saying we won’t sell out home games at £40-£50 a ticket……I understand the appeal of the away days but surely people will sort the home games first, especially if go on sale this month, then sort the away games if they are able to afford and get the time off work

It's the difference between the core of die hard fans, for which SAFC is life and people who take the bairns on a weekend as a hobby.

Some fans live at home with their parents and spend most of their wages on following SAFC. Others are two parents who are working their arses off to make ends meet.

Out of 35k season ticket holders or whatever, there will be massive differences in people's personal circumstances and disposable income.

 

[old supporter]

The club aren't going to rip fans off or take advantage of the fact that we are in a European competition for the first time since 73/74 as a result of us WINNING a major competition back then ( just making a point there ).

As a recent joiner of the 65 club my SC is £422 which is just over £22 per PL game. I am convinced a four ticket package will be no more than £120/£130 maximum for where I sit in the corner where East Stand meets North Stand.

If you're in the East Stand centre for example and pay an average of £35 a game, you won't be paying more than £150 for the four games.

There's some absolute scare mongering nonsense on this thread - £50 per game my hairy fking arse man.

My OAP SC in the centre of the East stand is £580 my wife is under 65 so her SC is £825 so that works out at just over £30 and £43 per match I'm not expecting it to be any cheaper for a European match

 

[North Yorks Mackem]

That's why I think it would be better for all parties to set a fair price for a 4 game package.

Would be even better for the club if they could include mandatory purchase of home domestic cup ties as part of the deal.

If they can give a more affordable price to fans to watch European football as long as they can guarantee a large crowd for domestic cup games then this could be a win, win all round.

There was 22k there in the league cup against Huddersfield last year, but seemed like less. Maybe doing a package could guarantee 30k for the cup games as well.

They used to do a thing with season tickets when you renewed youd choose to get home cup tickets for any potential home cup game. Im sure I haven't dreamt that up. Sure itd help improve cup attendances which have been poor in recent years (do think closing large parts of the ground contributes to poor attendances too).

 

[toreandreflop]

thats all well and good, but some people simply won't be able to afford it at those prices. doesn't mean they are wanting a hand-out or are poor supporters. a dad with 2 kids will be looking at approx £200 for a home game including travel and food etc...

thats a lot of money for a thursday night in winter time, if you don't have a lot of disposable income to start with. i can see some people having to make tough choices

this dismissal by some of our fans towards others as being tight, or twisting, is pathetic

I get that, but what I’ve said is this is a European cup game, these won’t be included in your ST price and if we can charge £40 for a single match ticket for Burnley at home on a weeknight I’m sure the likes of (if we get them) ac Milan on a Thursday will be a few quid more - I can guarantee that £200 you’ve quoted will be forgotten in an instant, and there’ll be people selling limbs for tickets.

sadly it’s the absolute entitlement for a small group of our fans, not just on here, who feel that the club should be discounting tickets down - in an ideal world yes but the club needs to make money and we’re operating as a business - the same people will be more than happy to pay £200+ for a final ticket if we got there, taking their bairns and probably cost £1k for the trip with no complaints at all or referencing the cost of living crisis. same with the amount who bought Wembley tickets for £100+ without an issue, trains and hotels on the beers all weekend . it seems to be the chance of playing a lesser known team that has most people aggrieved and quite frankly we need to get a grip and remember where we were 10 years ago

 

[seaham ftm]

Cuckoo land people thinking it all be 30 quid a game.

 

[NorthCountryBoy]

I get that, but what I’ve said is this is a European cup game, these won’t be included in your ST price and if we can charge £40 for a single match ticket for Burnley at home on a weeknight I’m sure the likes of (if we get them) ac Milan on a Thursday will be a few quid more - I can guarantee that £200 you’ve quoted will be forgotten in an instant, and there’ll be people selling limbs for tickets.

sadly it’s the absolute entitlement for a small group of our fans, not just on here, who feel that the club should be discounting tickets down - in an ideal world yes but the club needs to make money and we’re operating as a business - the same people will be more than happy to pay £200+ for a final ticket if we got there, taking their bairns and probably cost £1k for the trip with no complaints at all or referencing the cost of living crisis. same with the amount who bought Wembley tickets for £100+ without an issue, trains and hotels on the beers all weekend . it seems to be the chance of playing a lesser known team that has most people aggrieved and quite frankly we need to get a grip and remember where we were 10 years ago

Equally, why are people so desperate for the club to charge the fans high prices? We won’t sell out at £40 in my opinion for a Pot 4 team so I daresay it won’t make much difference versus £30 in terms of gross revenue.

If say a £25 offer makes our prices stand out in a league of greed, mint.

I’ve done all but about two domestic cup ties since the SOL opened (bar that pizza thing) and will be spending a good chunk on doing two or three Euro aways but I’m not convinced I’d pay £40 for the lesser home ties.

 

[North Yorks Mackem]

Completely understand the significance of the games outside of England/Wales but can’t understand paying X amount to travel and watch a game on TV but not go to the stadium for a home game in the same competition. Fair enough the atmosphere away will be immense but if I had to, I’d still choose to go to an actual game

As you've said the atmosphere will be brilliant. People will get to travel to a place they possibly haven't been to before and make some amazing memories. A home game against lillestrom probably isnt going to be quite the same.

Im not missing the chance to get to travel abroad following sunderland (which may never happen again) even if it means doing so without a ticket. I obviously hope i do get one even if it means being in the home end.

 

[Luna17]

It's the difference between the core of die hard fans, for which SAFC is life and people who take the bairns on a weekend as a hobby.

Some fans live at home with their parents and spend most of their wages on following SAFC. Others are two parents who are working their arses off to make ends meet.

Out of 35k season ticket holders or whatever, there will be massive differences in people's personal circumstances and disposable income.

Lots on here getting carried away (unsurprisingly) with the excitement of qualifying for a European competition.

Nonsense that there'd be 10,000 plus in Milan if we drew them away for example. I think someone even suggested 30,000.

We'd probably get 3-5000 tickets for Milan, so people are expecting 7000+ there just for the banter and saying "I was a mackem in Milan"?

Even with RyanAir, Buzz etc, flying there, digs, food and drink will come to a hefty sum.

Yes, ofc there would be plenty going without tickets, but 7000+ without tickets for a group game ? I think not.

 

[brains]

They used to do a thing with season tickets when you renewed youd choose to get home cup tickets for any potential home cup game. Im sure I haven't dreamt that up. Sure itd help improve cup attendances which have been poor in recent years (do think closing large parts of the ground contributes to poor attendances too).

They did do a home cup scheme by DD, but as far as I can remember it wasn't for any reduced rate. I think if for example they said £140 for all 4 Euro ties, if you also opt in to home cup ties (£20 per game v Championship or below, and £30 per game v PL teams) - then it could help to guarantee bigger crowds in all competitions, which would be beneficial to everyone. Extra matchday revenue in home domestic cup ties could help to offset slightly lower ticket prices in Europa League.

 

[Grimes]

If the Europa games seem too much money we should introduce that thing we had a couple seasons back when the richer supporters could buy tickets and donate them. Would be great for the young support.

 

[brains]

Lots on here getting carried away (unsurprisingly) with the excitement of qualifying for a European competition.

Nonsense that there'd be 10,000 plus in Milan if we drew them away for example. I think someone even suggested 30,000.

We'd probably get 3-5000 tickets for Milan, so people are expecting 7000+ there just for the banter and saying "I was a mackem in Milan"?

Even with RyanAir, Buzz etc, flying there, digs, food and drink will come to a hefty sum.

Yes, ofc there would be plenty going without tickets, but 7000+ without tickets for a group game ? I think not.

I think if we draw a big club, in a major city, which is easy to get to - then it's very realistic to expect 10k of us there. I know a load of people who don't have the requisite points - myself included - that will go to at least one of the away games, with or without a ticket.

The easiest one to get to would be my first choice. The cost could end up being ridiculous, but it hasn't happened in 30 years of supporting us, so it's worth it.

 

[North Yorks Mackem]

Lots on here getting carried away (unsurprisingly) with the excitement of qualifying for a European competition.

Nonsense that there'd be 10,000 plus in Milan if we drew them away for example. I think someone even suggested 30,000.

We'd probably get 3-5000 tickets for Milan, so people are expecting 7000+ there just for the banter and saying "I was a mackem in Milan"?

Even with RyanAir, Buzz etc, flying there, digs, food and drink will come to a hefty sum.

Yes, ofc there would be plenty going without tickets, but 7000+ without tickets for a group game ? I think not.

I think youd be surprised the demand for Milan away would generate. We aint a club that qualifies for europe regularly. This could be a one off. Lads I know who dont go away normally want to travel for at least one game. And for such a fixture there's a decent chance home end tickets could be bought.

 

[pablo casals]

that portuguese non league team in the Algarve stadium would be the best away day. theyd give us at least 20000 tickets.

Was it Eintracht Frankurt who went mad a few year ago. managed to get 20-40 thousand by all estimates into the Camp Nou, cos they dont normally get into Europe. And all the barca season ticket holders were happy to sell up.

They are the Yorkshiremen of Spain the Catalans

 

[toreandreflop]

Equally, why are people so desperate for the club to charge the fans high prices? We won’t sell out at £40 in my opinion for a Pot 4 team so I daresay it won’t make much difference versus £30 in terms of gross revenue.

If say a £25 offer makes our prices stand out in a league of greed, mint.

I’ve done all but about two domestic cup ties since the SOL opened (bar that pizza thing) and will be spending a good chunk on doing two or three Euro aways but I’m not convinced I’d pay £40 for the lesser home ties.

nothing in what I’ve said states that I’m desperate for the club to charge more pal? I’m being realistic, but sadly you’ve hit the nail on the head why we got in the shit financially last time. £25, would be class but be bloody realistic it’s not goin to even probably let us break even on the night…and sadly goin off the comments on this thread we still won’t get a sell out

won’t pay for a lesser home tie but will spend 10 times that amount to go to a far off place to watch the same team play? - not sure on the logic there like…but I’ll happily get the beers in if I’m wrong

that portuguese non league team in the Algarve stadium would be the best away day. theyd give us at least 20000 tickets.

Was it Eintracht Frankurt who went mad a few year ago. managed to get 20-40 thousand by all estimates into the Camp Nou, cos they dont normally get into Europe. And all the barca season ticket holders were happy to sell up.

They are the Yorkshiremen of Spain the Catalans

Milan may do that too with how things are behind the scenes, if it doesn’t improve….

 

[Wearson]

I’m assuming that the club will wait for the draw before releasing the packages?

One thing I’d like to see is the offer to upgrade to the various hospitality areas for the less popular opposition games, for reasonable rates.

 

[North Yorks Mackem]

nothing in what I’ve said states that I’m desperate for the club to charge more pal? I’m being realistic, but sadly you’ve hit the nail on the head why we got in the shit financially last time. £25, would be class but be bloody realistic it’s not goin to even probably let us break even on the night…and sadly goin off the comments on this thread we still won’t get a sell out

won’t pay for a lesser home tie but will spend 10 times that amount to go to a far off place to watch the same team play? - not sure on the logic there like…but I’ll happily get the beers in if I’m wrong

Milan may do that too with how things are behind the scenes, if it doesn’t improve….

Not even going to break even at £25 a head? How much do you think we're paying our bar staff like? We'll comfortably make very good money on that. Probably in excess of a million quid a match.

And for many the big attraction of european football is actually watching the games overseas. That wont apply to everyone but it really shouldnt be hard to grasp. We see our team play at home all the time.

 

[Mackem00]

nothing in what I’ve said states that I’m desperate for the club to charge more pal? I’m being realistic, but sadly you’ve hit the nail on the head why we got in the shit financially last time. £25, would be class but be bloody realistic it’s not goin to even probably let us break even on the night…and sadly goin off the comments on this thread we still won’t get a sell out

won’t pay for a lesser home tie but will spend 10 times that amount to go to a far off place to watch the same team play? - not sure on the logic there like…but I’ll happily get the beers in if I’m wrong

Milan may do that too with how things are behind the scenes, if it doesn’t improve….

How much do you think it costs to hold a game at the SOL?

 

[thewand73]

One aspect of this, is that the ticket pricing by the club is a choice. Benfica charged as little as €106 for a 4-game Champions League ticket.

Fully expecting my East Stand SC to be 60 quid a match. Maybe 200 quid as a token 'discount' if you buy a 4 game pass - we need to ensure the atmosphere is electric and the club need to think long and hard before August 28th. Be awful to be greedy and not recognise the role of our supporters.

Ticketing appears to be a blind spot at times. Fingers crossed they get this right.

 

[SPUFF]

One aspect of this, is that the ticket pricing by the club is a choice. Benfica charged as little as €106 for a 4-game Champions League ticket.

Fully expecting my East Stand SC to be 60 quid a match. Maybe 200 quid as a token 'discount' if you buy a 4 game pass - we need to ensure the atmosphere is electric and the club need to think long and hard before August 28th. Be awful to be greedy and not recognise the role of our supporters.

Ticketing appears to be a blind spot at times. Fingers crossed they get this right.

Great post.

Sick of hearing talk about ‘maximising revenue lately. Brainwashed. Lots of money to be made here without pricing out folk whove watched shite for decades.

 

[old supporter]

Cuckoo land people thinking it all be 30 quid a game.

Normal match by match tickets that went on sale on ticketing Tuesday for P5 and P6 for a night match against Burnley were £42 for an adult I can't see them being any cheaper for European matches