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Sorry, was it Morkel and Elgar last season ? Your other point is valid but with a squad including other "international" cricketers like Stoneman, Plunkett, Borthwick, Dernbach, Ricky Clarke and Batty they are covered better than any other County side. Just cannot understand why the likes of Will Jacks,Amar Virdi and Reece Topley have been selected, unless it is the "Surrey" factor ??
Yeah. And those blokes haven’t been picked. That’s kind of the point.

Jacks - he’s 21 and it’s a punt.
Virdi - given they have picked Crane it’s hardly an absurd pick, who else is there?
Topley didn’t even play for Surrey last year
 

badger55

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Yeah. And those blokes haven’t been picked. That’s kind of the point.

Jacks - he’s 21 and it’s a punt.
Virdi - given they have picked Crane it’s hardly an absurd pick, who else is there?
Topley didn’t even play for Surrey last year
I am not criticising Surrey at all. I'm having a go at the selectors. Topley gives evidence to my original post. He hasn't been near to an England squad for 4 years, mainly through injury, and has moved from Hampshire to Sussex and then Surrey. Gets picked for this squad as soon as he signs for Surrey.
Jacks struggled to hold down a place in the Surrey side, in white ball and red ball cricket, last season. Virdi was dropped last season due to his poor fitness levels.
 
I am not criticising Surrey at all. I'm having a go at the selectors. Topley gives evidence to my original post. He hasn't been near to an England squad for 4 years, mainly through injury, and has moved from Hampshire to Sussex and then Surrey. Gets picked for this squad as soon as he signs for Surrey.
Jacks struggled to hold down a place in the Surrey side, in white ball and red ball cricket, last season. Virdi was dropped last season due to his poor fitness levels.
Topley is a bizarre one I agree

Jacks is a punt and nothing more. Bess couldn’t get in the Somerset team

Virdi I have no issue with at all
 

TheRey

Midfield
Sorry, was it Morkel and Elgar last season ? Your other point is valid but with a squad including other "international" cricketers like Stoneman, Plunkett, Borthwick, Dernbach, Ricky Clarke and Batty they are covered better than any other County side. Just cannot understand why the likes of Will Jacks,Amar Virdi and Reece Topley have been selected, unless it is the "Surrey" factor ??
Nothing to do with the "Surrey factor". Jacks and Virdi are two of the best young players in the country. Virdi was one of the main reasons we won the title in 18, and Jacks has played for England at youth level, scored a hundred in a T10 game and been on England's radar for a few years.

You have a point on Topley, but you come across as completely bitter, and frankly pathetic.
Jacks struggled to hold down a place in the Surrey side, in white ball and red ball cricket, last season. .
Fuck me, I must've missed that 🤨
 
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badger55

Full Back
Nothing to do with the "Surrey factor". Jacks and Virdi are two of the best young players in the country. Virdi was one of the main reasons we won the title in 18, and Jacks has played for England at youth level, scored a hundred in a T10 game and been on England's radar for a few years.

You have a point on Topley, but you come across as completely bitter, and frankly pathetic.

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Gareth Batty played way more games than Virdi last season, due to fitness issues. Jacks, I agree he has talent, but he did not hold down a place last season.
I am entitled to an opinion different to you and I will never resort to personal abuse when someone disagrees with me.
 

The Rat

Striker
I've seen that Jacks play live several times, looked fucking dynamite to be honest.

Topley is a ridiculous pick like sorry, kick in the face for a lot of bowlers. Its probably not a Surrey thing more his dad and his connections, although his dad is a canny bloke.

few take aways from that, not like anyone cares

Jamie Porter, you'd say the premium seamer along with Ollie Robinson last couple of years, obviously not fancied, been around hte set up a bit, so he will never play for England

Sam Northeast really should be in there like, he is a younger Hildreth, just have never fancied him, he is one of the best in the county game I reckon

No Hales, just ridiculous tbh.

Laurie Evans a strange one too, don;t get that at all.

mostly fair enough though.
 
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TopCat

Striker
Glad to see Henry Brookes get a call up. Good kid from Warwickshire who has a real chance...........
 

Rip Van Fish

Striker
Surrey. Making grown adults cry since with rage since 1845. 😎
Got to admit mate Surrey has never affected me.
Lancskyshire on the other hand...
No County has had more TV live games than them I’ll bet. And that’s going right back to when Live Cricket on TV first started
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Glad to see Henry Brookes get a call up. Good kid from Warwickshire who has a real chance...........
Got to trust he doesn’t do his bloody back in again. Real prospect
 
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I've seen that Jacks play live several times, looked fucking dynamite to be honest.

Topley is a ridiculous pick like sorry, kick in the face for a lot of bowlers. Its probably not a Surrey thing more his dad and his connections, although his dad is a canny bloke.

few take aways from that, not like anyone cares

Jamie Porter, you'd say the premium seamer along with Ollie Robinson last couple of years, obviously not fancied, been around hte set up a bit, so he will never play for England

Sam Northeast really should be in there like, he is a younger Hildreth, just have never fancied him, he is one of the best in the county game I reckon

No Hales, just ridiculous tbh.

Laurie Evans a strange one too, don;t get that at all.

mostly fair enough though.
Agree with all of that.

The constant omission of Northeast is a very strange one, even more so given Ed Smith's links with Kent - perhaps he's being punished for that move to Hampshire!
 

wackyjacky

Winger
Shame that we get another academy product called up yet apart from the OP's original post he doesn't even get a mention on this thread. Too much quibbling over other counties than giving our own player any recognition.
 

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