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Eng v NZ - 2nd ODI
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mackembhoy
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100 off just 98 balls kinght saying that like it's some sort of amazing acheivement.
Why isn't tremlett in the squad?
Why isn't tremlett in the squad?
Marko
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Sick of listening to Knight in this match with his pro anything that has a link to Warwickshire craic.
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A run a ball ton is an achievement. Particularly when everything is falling apart around him
Wise Man Says
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Dismal performance.
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callaghan08
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it might look far a better performance once the footy players have finished their match, relatively speaking
Wise Man Says
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it might look far a better performance once the footy players have finished their match, relatively speaking
What a day for English sport this could be.
Mr Redknapp
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I don't understand the fascination with his "varieties" like, I dare say that if we practiced long enough doing them we could bowl them
Just because he has lots of deliveries does not equal a brilliant bowler
Because he's been out injured, just getting back into his stride, saw he got a few wickets today
The Breen Machine
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Struggling to see the faith in Dernbach, he's rolled out some of the worst bowling figures in England ODI history recently and for all his varieties, just isn't good enough as a stock bowler to play international cricket.
I've been quite an advocate of Woakes but he's a yard short of international pace and looks very average at this level. My advice for him would be to go back to county level and continue to hone his skill, Matthew Hoggard barely topped 80mph but took over 200 test wickets so if he can develop a bit more he could be a handy test cricketer in future as his batting does look the quality of an international number 8, possibly 7 for me.
Fuck knows why Onions can't get near the one day squad.
I've been quite an advocate of Woakes but he's a yard short of international pace and looks very average at this level. My advice for him would be to go back to county level and continue to hone his skill, Matthew Hoggard barely topped 80mph but took over 200 test wickets so if he can develop a bit more he could be a handy test cricketer in future as his batting does look the quality of an international number 8, possibly 7 for me.
Fuck knows why Onions can't get near the one day squad.
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The Hunt
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Totall agree with this, surely he has to be ahead of Dernbach and the Irish fella they have called up. Although from a Durham supporter perspective i'm pleased it looks like he'll be spending the summer with us.
The Breen Machine
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I agree that I'd much rather he stayed with us than spent time on the fringes of the England side, but it's puzzling how he's never played more than a handul of ODI's when his one day record for DCCC is very decent and Dernbach and Woakes look short of being international class atm.
Fulwell Mackem
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In theory both Dernbach and Woakes sound ideal.
One can bowl 90pmh with a lot of varieties and the other is a good county bowler and is very handy with the bat.
The Breen Machine
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I can see you're point on Dernbach, in theory he's quite a rare breed in this country, but the fact is he isn't good enough at what he does to be picked for England at the moment.
I like Woakes, he has potential in every aspect of his game, but there's loads of good county bowlers who are handy with the bat, Napier, Kabir Ali..
Fulwell Mackem
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At first in the T20 internationals Dernbach did alright but has been worked out. Not good enough really.
Woakes' average for Warwickshire has been very good (atleast it was last season) and if he improves his bowling I can see him making more test squads as we strive to look for that all-rounder.
Can't really see him making it at international level.
The Breen Machine
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I think he is more suited to test cricket, he gets close to the stumps and attempts to bowl wicket to wicket, finding movement away from the batsmen, he does remind me a bit of Hoggard in a way and looks more suited to the red ball. Bit more experience and he would probably be a dangerous test match bowler in the right conditions and his batting is already suited for a lower order international batsman IMO.
The white ball doesn't move around as much and the pitches are laid out to produce high scoring games, when you bowl at 80mph or less you can be cannon fodder in those types of games, look at how few ODI's Hoggard played despite him being a shoe in for the test side for around 5/6 years.
Fulwell Mackem
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Yeah he could become a good test bowler but at them minute I think he would have to improve a lot but he's still only young.
He should only get better with the bat and he could be a very valuable player for England in the future.
Hope he makes it but still think he needs to add a little bit more pace to his armoury. I know you don't always need pace but it helps
ProfessionalMackem
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Tin hat on, but I saw more in Saj than I do in Dernbach. The guy is a waste of space.
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