EFL confirm players and staff "at four league one clubs" all tested negative for Covid-19

I voted not to leave the EU but seem to be doing that.
The clubs may vote for one thing but are told what to do once it’s decided.
All this talk of not playing if they voted to end the season is just grasping at straws and desperation.
We are where we are for well documented reasons.
 


Wycombe fan here. Honestly, I understand anyone being upset about not getting a chance. Any fan forum I have gone on has (understandably) seen things from whatever perspective best suits their club. I believe most clubs would vote according to their best interests, which is why it is not a coincidence Coventry and Rotherham will both vote to end the season too, and also teams who will avoid relegation as a result, like AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale.

However, from my perspective, a jump from 8th to 3rd sounds a lot more crazy than it actually is - all the clubs from 3rd to 8th are covered by a single point, and we have a game in hand. If the season had ended a week earlier, we would have been 4th with the same games played as most everyone else. That's all ifs and buts, but the fact is, 8th was our lowest position all season, and as for freefall, we had won 5 of 8 before gifting Doncaster the win in our last game. It was not scorching hot form, but it was not freefall either. As for voting to end the season but playing the playoffs, there is a huge difference in expense between ten games and a maximum of three. There is a lot of talk over our new owner, who has come across well so far, but no-one knows how much money he has exactly, as far as being able to eat massive losses, and he does not intend on simply pumping loads of cash in anyway, but trying to make us sustainable (if that is even possible).

I don't blame anyone for being upset - I don't think there is actually a truly fair way to finish the season, given that only home and away in front of crowds with no gap would have been fair. But I understand people looking at it and feeling hard done by (especially Peterborough). However, to wish us to go to the wall because of how a pandemic has shaken things up is too far for me.

Also, we have not come out vocally as gung-ho about making sure we get in the playoffs. Our new owner's initial opinion was to null and void the season, and start again in August. Gareth Ainsworth has come out as saying he wishes the season could be finished. Whether you believe them or not, they have not been pushing and pushing for this solution in the way MacAnthony or Palios have been ranting about a solution that would benefit them.

Personally, I am gutted the season was cut short. That may sound convenient to say, but it was a magical ride for us, and we had no real pressure to get promoted. Everything was on the up and up with the new owner coming in, and it felt like we were riding a wave. Worst case scenario we drop to around 10th, and build on that foundation next season. Losing that stretch run, no matter how it played out, is gutting, as we had nothing to lose, and could enjoy the ride. Wycombe have never finished higher than 6th in League One, so while this is slumming it for you, it is nosebleed territory for us.

I am just writing this as it is also gutting for people to think we have been gifted something, when we have worked miracles on a threadbare budget. The owner, though he put some money in over the course of the season, only took over before the last two games. We got promoted from League Two with one of the lowest budgets in the division (with sweet Luke O'Nien a part of it), stayed in League One last season with a lower League Two budget, and were challenging this year, with our squad still only costing around 1.9 million pounds, if I remember rightly. This is the sort of thing that should be admired more than decried.

Anyway, that's my tuppence.
 
These four clubs are only doing what Sunderland would have done if they were in the playoff positions, don't understand the hate towards them, using the method that has been agreed and voted on they have the rite to be in the playoffs.
 
Shev said:
Wycombe fan here. Honestly, I understand anyone being upset about not getting a chance. Any fan forum I have gone on has (understandably) seen things from whatever perspective best suits their club. I believe most clubs would vote according to their best interests, which is why it is not a coincidence Coventry and Rotherham will both vote to end the season too, and also teams who will avoid relegation as a result, like AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale.

However, from my perspective, a jump from 8th to 3rd sounds a lot more crazy than it actually is - all the clubs from 3rd to 8th are covered by a single point, and we have a game in hand. If the season had ended a week earlier, we would have been 4th with the same games played as most everyone else. That's all ifs and buts, but the fact is, 8th was our lowest position all season, and as for freefall, we had won 5 of 8 before gifting Doncaster the win in our last game. It was not scorching hot form, but it was not freefall either. As for voting to end the season but playing the playoffs, there is a huge difference in expense between ten games and a maximum of three. There is a lot of talk over our new owner, who has come across well so far, but no-one knows how much money he has exactly, as far as being able to eat massive losses, and he does not intend on simply pumping loads of cash in anyway, but trying to make us sustainable (if that is even possible).

I don't blame anyone for being upset - I don't think there is actually a truly fair way to finish the season, given that only home and away in front of crowds with no gap would have been fair. But I understand people looking at it and feeling hard done by (especially Peterborough). However, to wish us to go to the wall because of how a pandemic has shaken things up is too far for me.

Also, we have not come out vocally as gung-ho about making sure we get in the playoffs. Our new owner's initial opinion was to null and void the season, and start again in August. Gareth Ainsworth has come out as saying he wishes the season could be finished. Whether you believe them or not, they have not been pushing and pushing for this solution in the way MacAnthony or Palios have been ranting about a solution that would benefit them.

Personally, I am gutted the season was cut short. That may sound convenient to say, but it was a magical ride for us, and we had no real pressure to get promoted. Everything was on the up and up with the new owner coming in, and it felt like we were riding a wave. Worst case scenario we drop to around 10th, and build on that foundation next season. Losing that stretch run, no matter how it played out, is gutting, as we had nothing to lose, and could enjoy the ride. Wycombe have never finished higher than 6th in League One, so while this is slumming it for you, it is nosebleed territory for us.

I am just writing this as it is also gutting for people to think we have been gifted something, when we have worked miracles on a threadbare budget. The owner, though he put some money in over the course of the season, only took over before the last two games. We got promoted from League Two with one of the lowest budgets in the division (with sweet Luke O'Nien a part of it), stayed in League One last season with a lower League Two budget, and were challenging this year, with our squad still only costing around 1.9 million pounds, if I remember rightly. This is the sort of thing that should be admired more than decried.

Anyway, that's my tuppence.
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So, succinctly its fine to cheat to get what you want as long as you are a plucky underdog.
It is fine to want the season to end due to health concerns. But how can you justify then wanting to play more games after?
But hey, cheating isn’t cheating if you don’t get caught....
 
Sounds like the decision has been made...personally hope anyone going up under this nonsense comes immediately back down. Tranmere has every reason to be fuming also. Spineless EFL.
 
Shev said:
Wycombe fan here. Honestly, I understand anyone being upset about not getting a chance. Any fan forum I have gone on has (understandably) seen things from whatever perspective best suits their club. I believe most clubs would vote according to their best interests, which is why it is not a coincidence Coventry and Rotherham will both vote to end the season too, and also teams who will avoid relegation as a result, like AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale.

However, from my perspective, a jump from 8th to 3rd sounds a lot more crazy than it actually is - all the clubs from 3rd to 8th are covered by a single point, and we have a game in hand. If the season had ended a week earlier, we would have been 4th with the same games played as most everyone else. That's all ifs and buts, but the fact is, 8th was our lowest position all season, and as for freefall, we had won 5 of 8 before gifting Doncaster the win in our last game. It was not scorching hot form, but it was not freefall either. As for voting to end the season but playing the playoffs, there is a huge difference in expense between ten games and a maximum of three. There is a lot of talk over our new owner, who has come across well so far, but no-one knows how much money he has exactly, as far as being able to eat massive losses, and he does not intend on simply pumping loads of cash in anyway, but trying to make us sustainable (if that is even possible).

I don't blame anyone for being upset - I don't think there is actually a truly fair way to finish the season, given that only home and away in front of crowds with no gap would have been fair. But I understand people looking at it and feeling hard done by (especially Peterborough). However, to wish us to go to the wall because of how a pandemic has shaken things up is too far for me.

Also, we have not come out vocally as gung-ho about making sure we get in the playoffs. Our new owner's initial opinion was to null and void the season, and start again in August. Gareth Ainsworth has come out as saying he wishes the season could be finished. Whether you believe them or not, they have not been pushing and pushing for this solution in the way MacAnthony or Palios have been ranting about a solution that would benefit them.

Personally, I am gutted the season was cut short. That may sound convenient to say, but it was a magical ride for us, and we had no real pressure to get promoted. Everything was on the up and up with the new owner coming in, and it felt like we were riding a wave. Worst case scenario we drop to around 10th, and build on that foundation next season. Losing that stretch run, no matter how it played out, is gutting, as we had nothing to lose, and could enjoy the ride. Wycombe have never finished higher than 6th in League One, so while this is slumming it for you, it is nosebleed territory for us.

I am just writing this as it is also gutting for people to think we have been gifted something, when we have worked miracles on a threadbare budget. The owner, though he put some money in over the course of the season, only took over before the last two games. We got promoted from League Two with one of the lowest budgets in the division (with sweet Luke O'Nien a part of it), stayed in League One last season with a lower League Two budget, and were challenging this year, with our squad still only costing around 1.9 million pounds, if I remember rightly. This is the sort of thing that should be admired more than decried.

Anyway, that's my tuppence.
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But you have been gifted something if the season ends and you qualify for the playoffs having not completed a full fixture list, despite how well you think you've played prior to that.

You also have to consider some teams remaining games are considered more difficult than others, given the marginal point difference at the top, I think it's a disgrace if Rotherham are granted automatic promotion, it's simply unfair.

Clubs should not have been given an option to finish the season based on a ppg scenario. It should have been either void or complete.
JL1985 said:
Portsmouth will stay up in the championship, the rest be be relegated.
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Portsmouth looked quite poor imo.
 
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Shev said:
Wycombe fan here. Honestly, I understand anyone being upset about not getting a chance. Any fan forum I have gone on has (understandably) seen things from whatever perspective best suits their club. I believe most clubs would vote according to their best interests, which is why it is not a coincidence Coventry and Rotherham will both vote to end the season too, and also teams who will avoid relegation as a result, like AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale.

However, from my perspective, a jump from 8th to 3rd sounds a lot more crazy than it actually is - all the clubs from 3rd to 8th are covered by a single point, and we have a game in hand. If the season had ended a week earlier, we would have been 4th with the same games played as most everyone else. That's all ifs and buts, but the fact is, 8th was our lowest position all season, and as for freefall, we had won 5 of 8 before gifting Doncaster the win in our last game. It was not scorching hot form, but it was not freefall either. As for voting to end the season but playing the playoffs, there is a huge difference in expense between ten games and a maximum of three. There is a lot of talk over our new owner, who has come across well so far, but no-one knows how much money he has exactly, as far as being able to eat massive losses, and he does not intend on simply pumping loads of cash in anyway, but trying to make us sustainable (if that is even possible).

I don't blame anyone for being upset - I don't think there is actually a truly fair way to finish the season, given that only home and away in front of crowds with no gap would have been fair. But I understand people looking at it and feeling hard done by (especially Peterborough). However, to wish us to go to the wall because of how a pandemic has shaken things up is too far for me.

Also, we have not come out vocally as gung-ho about making sure we get in the playoffs. Our new owner's initial opinion was to null and void the season, and start again in August. Gareth Ainsworth has come out as saying he wishes the season could be finished. Whether you believe them or not, they have not been pushing and pushing for this solution in the way MacAnthony or Palios have been ranting about a solution that would benefit them.

Personally, I am gutted the season was cut short. That may sound convenient to say, but it was a magical ride for us, and we had no real pressure to get promoted. Everything was on the up and up with the new owner coming in, and it felt like we were riding a wave. Worst case scenario we drop to around 10th, and build on that foundation next season. Losing that stretch run, no matter how it played out, is gutting, as we had nothing to lose, and could enjoy the ride. Wycombe have never finished higher than 6th in League One, so while this is slumming it for you, it is nosebleed territory for us.

I am just writing this as it is also gutting for people to think we have been gifted something, when we have worked miracles on a threadbare budget. The owner, though he put some money in over the course of the season, only took over before the last two games. We got promoted from League Two with one of the lowest budgets in the division (with sweet Luke O'Nien a part of it), stayed in League One last season with a lower League Two budget, and were challenging this year, with our squad still only costing around 1.9 million pounds, if I remember rightly. This is the sort of thing that should be admired more than decried.

Anyway, that's my tuppence.
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Fair play, I do not wish that on wycombe (as we could easily go to the wall) & it'd be bad karma. The game in hand yous have is a very difficult fixture tbf tho.
My problem with the unweighted PPG is that hypothetically had us won the first 10, then wearmouth pit swallowed our stadium & players making football unplayable on wearside, we'd win the league with 3.0 points. (this is an extreme case of course)
 
Guinness Guzzler said:
Is this lad just sat waiting for any article that makes it sound like SAFC won't be in the play offs just so he can rush across to post it? Seems a bit strange. We know, we aren't going up ; with this set up we'd be fucked anyway so I don't think many are too devastated about it, if you're only here to rub it in you're onto something of a loser
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Well said.
 
JamesTu said:
So, succinctly its fine to cheat to get what you want as long as you are a plucky underdog.
It is fine to want the season to end due to health concerns. But how can you justify then wanting to play more games after?
But hey, cheating isn’t cheating if you don’t get caught....
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Seems consistent with way team plays. One of the worst I'd seen last two seasons. Bunch of cuts the lot of them.cheaters off and on pitch imo
 
Shev said:
Wycombe fan here. Honestly, I understand anyone being upset about not getting a chance. Any fan forum I have gone on has (understandably) seen things from whatever perspective best suits their club. I believe most clubs would vote according to their best interests, which is why it is not a coincidence Coventry and Rotherham will both vote to end the season too, and also teams who will avoid relegation as a result, like AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale.

However, from my perspective, a jump from 8th to 3rd sounds a lot more crazy than it actually is - all the clubs from 3rd to 8th are covered by a single point, and we have a game in hand. If the season had ended a week earlier, we would have been 4th with the same games played as most everyone else. That's all ifs and buts, but the fact is, 8th was our lowest position all season, and as for freefall, we had won 5 of 8 before gifting Doncaster the win in our last game. It was not scorching hot form, but it was not freefall either. As for voting to end the season but playing the playoffs, there is a huge difference in expense between ten games and a maximum of three. There is a lot of talk over our new owner, who has come across well so far, but no-one knows how much money he has exactly, as far as being able to eat massive losses, and he does not intend on simply pumping loads of cash in anyway, but trying to make us sustainable (if that is even possible).

I don't blame anyone for being upset - I don't think there is actually a truly fair way to finish the season, given that only home and away in front of crowds with no gap would have been fair. But I understand people looking at it and feeling hard done by (especially Peterborough). However, to wish us to go to the wall because of how a pandemic has shaken things up is too far for me.

Also, we have not come out vocally as gung-ho about making sure we get in the playoffs. Our new owner's initial opinion was to null and void the season, and start again in August. Gareth Ainsworth has come out as saying he wishes the season could be finished. Whether you believe them or not, they have not been pushing and pushing for this solution in the way MacAnthony or Palios have been ranting about a solution that would benefit them.

Personally, I am gutted the season was cut short. That may sound convenient to say, but it was a magical ride for us, and we had no real pressure to get promoted. Everything was on the up and up with the new owner coming in, and it felt like we were riding a wave. Worst case scenario we drop to around 10th, and build on that foundation next season. Losing that stretch run, no matter how it played out, is gutting, as we had nothing to lose, and could enjoy the ride. Wycombe have never finished higher than 6th in League One, so while this is slumming it for you, it is nosebleed territory for us.

I am just writing this as it is also gutting for people to think we have been gifted something, when we have worked miracles on a threadbare budget. The owner, though he put some money in over the course of the season, only took over before the last two games. We got promoted from League Two with one of the lowest budgets in the division (with sweet Luke O'Nien a part of it), stayed in League One last season with a lower League Two budget, and were challenging this year, with our squad still only costing around 1.9 million pounds, if I remember rightly. This is the sort of thing that should be admired more than decried.

Anyway, that's my tuppence.
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Out the 4 who are likely to be in the play offs I hope it's yous that end up getting promoted. A club I have a lot of time for punching above their weight. Big fan of your manager as well. Good luck.
 
Mackem00 said:
Out the 4 who are likely to be in the play offs I hope it's yous that end up getting promoted. A club I have a lot of time for punching above their weight. Big fan of your manager as well. Good luck.
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The only thing for me is any club voting to void the season should be exempt from the Playoffs if they end up there after PPG.
 
Blue_Monday said:
These four clubs are only doing what Sunderland would have done if they were in the playoff positions, don't understand the hate towards them, using the method that has been agreed and voted on they have the rite to be in the playoffs.
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No hate at all towards the 4 clubs, 3 of them wanted to play on so were on our side of the argument.
 
Ok so I’m guessing to take part in the playoffs you need to remove players from furlough, and then if Wycombe didn’t go up, they’d have to pay players throughout then even if a season doesn’t start till late. Do they then just say “yeah we can’t afford it so back on furlough” ?
 

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