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#DonaldOut

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AKickUpTheBerntHaas said:
For me, that’s a terrible statement. Don’t get me wrong, I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment behind it and want Stewart Donald to step aside, but that statement could and should have been written with more class and structure than it has been. It paints as nothing more than a rant from someone with a huge and thoroughly incorrect sense of entitlement.

Slagging off Bolton in that statement is pathetic and wrong. For a set of fans that are concerned about the future of our club, I think some respect to Bolton’s fans should be shown, as that’s a club that was and still is suffering deformation from the behaviour of its previous owner. We as a club have, in my opinion, not recovered from the previous regime at SAFC and the current regime has kept that rot setting in. The statement could and probably should have used Bolton not as a joke or one that we should be having some sort of divine right of beating but as an example of what can happen to a club feeling the effects of poor management and should have used Bury, a side we should have been playing this season, and it’s fans, whose Saturday afternoons no longer centre around congregating at Gigg Lane, as an example of the worst case situation.

This is a statement that starts off with slagging off Phil Parkinson but should be about Stewart Donald and then turns on Donald. While the article is called “#DonaldOut” it shouldn’t be starting off with abuse of Parkinson. Don’t get me wrong, Parkinson is Howard Wilkinson MkII in my eyes, but if this is a statement about the clubs overall stewardship, it shouldn’t be mentioning Parkinson or Kevin Phillips in it.
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These the Bolton fans who were chanting the Netflix song on Boxing day? Fuck them.
 

The Rat said:
Yes I was :lol:

ask every poster on here

He did a horrendous job last year

how can you defend what he has done to the academy, the cuts and appointments there have ruined it

absolutely nothing to do with league one

he spent 5 mill of his own money, cut it to death, and is demanding 30 to 50 million

yet you think its only about phil parkinson

good god, he is a total chancer
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He has made mistakes , but don’t just make shit up when you haven’t got a clue how much of his own money he has put in. Considering we only just missed out on promotion last season and were 6th and 4pts off the top 2 this season before he came in I would say that has a massive amount to do with PP. There were loads of cut backs all over the club when they took over, a lot of them had to be made as we were massively over spending
frot said:
The idea that there's someone waiting in the wings who will willing throw money at us, along with a quality manager who'll happily join because "we're Sunderland" is simply not going to happen.

We need an experienced executive with a vision to run the club. To me, it's more important than any sale of the club. I suppose the Americans might provide that, but it's a message I'd be trying to get through to Donald, as opposed to getting him to sell up. They certainly won't be throwing money at us either.
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Nobody is just going to throw money at us, there are still financial to follow in this league. I agree with your points though
 
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Rizla said:
Sartori is the unknown quantity here and possibly the key to what happens next. Although his level of wealth has always been a mystery.
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yep, i mentioned earlier in the thread that CM reckoned Sartori would be more prominent from 'now' but no one seems to have seen him yet. I know he sold his marijuana company for £170million. no idea how much his union group company is worth
 
elder said:
yep, i mentioned earlier in the thread that CM reckoned Sartori would be more prominent from 'now' but no one seems to have seen him yet. I know he sold his marijuana company for £170million. no idea how much his union group company is worth
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We also heard that Donald was creating jobs in the region by opening a branch of his company up here. That seems to have gone very quiet as well!
 
AKickUpTheBerntHaas said:
For me, that’s a terrible statement. Don’t get me wrong, I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment behind it and want Stewart Donald to step aside, but that statement could and should have been written with more class and structure than it has been. It paints as nothing more than a rant from someone with a huge and thoroughly incorrect sense of entitlement.

Slagging off Bolton in that statement is pathetic and wrong. For a set of fans that are concerned about the future of our club, I think some respect to Bolton’s fans should be shown, as that’s a club that was and still is suffering deformation from the behaviour of its previous owner. We as a club have, in my opinion, not recovered from the previous regime at SAFC and the current regime has kept that rot setting in. The statement could and probably should have used Bolton not as a joke or one that we should be having some sort of divine right of beating but as an example of what can happen to a club feeling the effects of poor management and should have used Bury, a side we should have been playing this season, and it’s fans, whose Saturday afternoons no longer centre around congregating at Gigg Lane, as an example of the worst case situation.

This is a statement that starts off with slagging off Phil Parkinson but should be about Stewart Donald and then turns on Donald. While the article is called “#DonaldOut” it shouldn’t be starting off with abuse of Parkinson. Don’t get me wrong, Parkinson is Howard Wilkinson MkII in my eyes, but if this is a statement about the clubs overall stewardship, it shouldn’t be mentioning Parkinson or Kevin Phillips in it.
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The contents barely matter nor how well written the statement. What matters is the entire fan base has been mobilised by it and everyone is now calling the owner out. Bare in mind weve all been whinging and whining for weeks and in his latest statement in the match programme he said the atmosphere had never been better. The fanzines are now mobilising to protest against the ownership and manager and regardless of how they've worded it, who f***ing cares, it's better than total apathy and the club sleepwalking to its death.
 
elder said:
is this a fair summary of where Donald is at:

He can't sell assets in SAFC without permission from FPP as long as the loan is in place.
'IF' SAFC (Donald) default on the loan from FPP then FPP could buy the club for as little as $90k - the value of 90% of SAFC shares (unlikely?)
However, Donald/Sartori could repay the 10 million to FPP to take them out of any equation, though it's highly unlikely that they'd get that money back if there were to then sell the club
If they did the above and sold the club, the sale price would also have to include the $25-55 million that Madrox owe SAFC, or that debt would have to be cleared first.

in essence FPP have Donald over a barrel unless he can find tens of millions of pounds hanging around to not only keep the club but to keep the club going?
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There is also the negative reaction to consider should Juan or SD pay back the £10m. Basically they would be stopping us from having some of the richest owners in the world which won’t play well with the fans
 
Botchie said:
I would describe what's happened tonight as a protest mind. A collective effort from like minded people with the same message.......
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It’s on Twitter, don’t think a owner is going to listen to that much. Plus you can’t just get a owner out, you need someone to buy the club first
 
So people saying to get rid of him he cant go anywhere unless someone states that they will takeover.In other words 19 pages of sabre rattling,unless this has been the yanks plan all along fingers crossed.
 
JVokes said:
You Really are a clown and don’t have a clue, probably never played a game of football in your life and know nothing about the game, Donald should never have been able to gain control of our club and failed in all his football history, complete chancer.
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You are clueless, I have played a lot of football, coaches football and am still playing and coaching, by your posts your clearly no nothing about football. Just the usual let’s sack everyone because it’s that easy
 
Hank Scorpio said:
There is also the negative reaction to consider should Juan or SD pay back the £10m. Basically they would be stopping us from having some of the richest owners in the world which won’t play well with the fans
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Looking like the £10m wasn't a chance for Donald to prove he could make the club a success, it was getting him on the hook with just enough rope. Almost as if they knew he'd fail and would then have no option but to stay and see the club's value plummet even further, spend £10m (that he wouldn't get back) to get rid of them, or agree to sell at their valuation
 
socrates said:
this could not have been timed worse, just before the transfer window opens.

it should be done at the end of January and based on our transfer activity/expenditure, or lack of it. The January window will speak volumes about the owner, and clubs financial state.

if we have a poor window with lack of investment, little or no improvement in playing staff, it will be clear evidence we are fkd as a club. that was the time to turn on the owner.

starting this campaign now and potentially antagonising the owner might jeopardise the extent of the investment he was going to make.

We will soon find out.
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Completely agree. Have to say I think the timing of this is totally stupid.

All for Parkinson out stuff, but time to challenge Stewart Donald is February or March.
 
rubberface said:
You got to admit, tide has turned against Donald.
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it would appear so but we need some stats to back it up as the most vocal supporters use the fan forums .........perhaps rawa could do a proper exit pole from the ground to garner opinion!We need to get donald out of our club pdq and sadly unless the crowds drop below10 thousand i doubt we will!
 
ExileBFG said:
The contents barely matter nor how well written the statement. What matters is the entire fan base has been mobilised by it and everyone is now calling the owner out. Bare in mind weve all been whinging and whining for weeks and in his latest statement in the match programme he said the atmosphere had never been better. The fanzines are now mobilising to protest against the ownership and manager and regardless of how they've worded it, who f***ing cares, it's better than total apathy and the club sleepwalking to its death.
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The content matters massively. Stewart Donald’s name doesn’t appear till the last paragraph, it opens by talking about Kevin Phillips and Phil Parkinson FFS.

Considering the ALS lot have been party to this, it’s poorly written and it’s message is unclear really.
 
pwsafc said:
And yet so have you, how the fuck would I know if any protests would be the reason he sold , if he sells and if there are any protests
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You wouldnt know, that's the point. Is that you categorically confirming that you wouldn't attempt to say there was no link then? Because you wouldn't know either way? I've read that correctly, yeah?
 
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