Different tier for the North East????

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Is it fair if the north east has different infection rates yet are all lumped together in tier 3? It seems harsh if businesses in areas have lower rates e.g. northumberland, county durham etc. have lower rates than in the urban areas yet are under the same restrictions. Surely its better for the livelihoods of some businesses to return to normality (if they can do so safety) than everyone being restricted. Although there's the potential of people to travel to different parts of the region, maybe the proviso is you can only visit pubs/restaurants/gyms etc IF you live in that particular town/area. Not sure how that could be managed but it would mean some businesses could operate.........????
 


citybythesea said:
Is it fair if the north east has different infection rates yet are all lumped together in tier 3? It seems harsh if businesses in areas have lower rates e.g. northumberland, county durham etc. have lower rates than in the urban areas yet are under the same restrictions. Surely its better for the livelihoods of some businesses to return to normality (if they can do so safety) than everyone being restricted. Although there's the potential of people to travel to different parts of the region, maybe the proviso is you can only visit pubs/restaurants/gyms etc IF you live in that particular town/area. Not sure how that could be managed but it would mean some businesses could operate.........????
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Do you have the numbers of each area?
 
citybythesea said:
Is it fair if the north east has different infection rates yet are all lumped together in tier 3? It seems harsh if businesses in areas have lower rates e.g. northumberland, county durham etc. have lower rates than in the urban areas yet are under the same restrictions. Surely its better for the livelihoods of some businesses to return to normality (if they can do so safety) than everyone being restricted. Although there's the potential of people to travel to different parts of the region, maybe the proviso is you can only visit pubs/restaurants/gyms etc IF you live in that particular town/area. Not sure how that could be managed but it would mean some businesses could operate.........????
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Yes, it’s fair.
 
citybythesea said:
Is it fair if the north east has different infection rates yet are all lumped together in tier 3? It seems harsh if businesses in areas have lower rates e.g. northumberland, county durham etc. have lower rates than in the urban areas yet are under the same restrictions. Surely its better for the livelihoods of some businesses to return to normality (if they can do so safety) than everyone being restricted. Although there's the potential of people to travel to different parts of the region, maybe the proviso is you can only visit pubs/restaurants/gyms etc IF you live in that particular town/area. Not sure how that could be managed but it would mean some businesses could operate.........????
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citybythesea said:
Is it fair if the north east has different infection rates yet are all lumped together in tier 3? It seems harsh if businesses in areas have lower rates e.g. northumberland, county durham etc. have lower rates than in the urban areas yet are under the same restrictions. Surely its better for the livelihoods of some businesses to return to normality (if they can do so safety) than everyone being restricted. Although there's the potential of people to travel to different parts of the region, maybe the proviso is you can only visit pubs/restaurants/gyms etc IF you live in that particular town/area. Not sure how that could be managed but it would mean some businesses could operate.........????
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The problem then becomes that people from the pockets of higher infection rates will just go to the pub in the rural areas taking their infection with them and sharing it out.

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citybythesea said:
Is it fair if the north east has different infection rates yet are all lumped together in tier 3? It seems harsh if businesses in areas have lower rates e.g. northumberland, county durham etc. have lower rates than in the urban areas yet are under the same restrictions. Surely its better for the livelihoods of some businesses to return to normality (if they can do so safety) than everyone being restricted. Although there's the potential of people to travel to different parts of the region, maybe the proviso is you can only visit pubs/restaurants/gyms etc IF you live in that particular town/area. Not sure how that could be managed but it would mean some businesses could operate.........????
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South Tyneside was of concern the other day, also I think there's major concern with hospital admission rates.

The latter especially is why we're in Tier 3 and likely quite frankly to stay there.
 
citybythesea said:
Is it fair if the north east has different infection rates yet are all lumped together in tier 3? It seems harsh if businesses in areas have lower rates e.g. northumberland, county durham etc. have lower rates than in the urban areas yet are under the same restrictions. Surely its better for the livelihoods of some businesses to return to normality (if they can do so safety) than everyone being restricted. Although there's the potential of people to travel to different parts of the region, maybe the proviso is you can only visit pubs/restaurants/gyms etc IF you live in that particular town/area. Not sure how that could be managed but it would mean some businesses could operate.........????
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The difference in rates between gateshead & south tyneside is massive, but people move between these areas for work, shopping & family so you can't really put them in different tiers
 
It'll be down to the relationships between county councils and city/urban councils. Last time Aberdeen went into a local lockdown, Aberdeenshire didn't despite a few decent sizes towns and villages right next to the city had cases, and have a high interaction with the city so had people going in and out for work still anyway. Now Aberdeen has just gone into Scottish tier 3, but Aberdesnshire has too. But now it means on the west side of the shire there will be places that a in tier 3 bordering places that are in tier 1. Lots of southern parts of Northumberland will have big interaction with Newcastle, and other parts of the area as will County Durham with Durham and other parts.

Aberdeenshire did look into the idea of splitting the county up for Covid tiers because of this but either nothing came of it or maybe blocked by government.
 
It appears that counties and areas can only be split in the South, with their better transport networks and ease of movement between the areas.

In the North we are all In it together, I notice the National R rate is being used again as justification for what is going in, National levels of infection and spreading haven’t been reported for months it’s all been split into regions.
 
southstander said:
The problem then becomes that people from the pockets of higher infection rates will just go to the pub in the rural areas taking their infection with them and sharing it out.

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But that's the same for everyone living at the edges of any regions - where the NE meets scottish borders, the nort west and yorkshire - they all have potentially different tiers.
So that argument just doesn't work.
makumstu said:
It appears that counties and areas can only be split in the South, with their better transport networks and ease of movement between the areas.

In the North we are all In it together, I notice the National R rate is being used again as justification for what is going in, National levels of infection and spreading haven’t been reported for months it’s all been split into regions.
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Now that London is bad, us northern lot can simply get to fuck.

Also, they've realised the Xmas plan is a killer, so they have to "Buy credit" by extending&bolstering this current lockdown.
 
PTR said:
But that's the same for everyone living at the edges of any regions - where the NE meets scottish borders, the nort west and yorkshire - they all have potentially different tiers.
So that argument just doesn't work.

Now that London is bad, us northern lot can simply get to fuck.

Also, they've realised the Xmas plan is a killer, so they have to "Buy credit" by extending&bolstering this current lockdown.
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And that is why the whole region is in the same level to make it more difficult to do that.
 
southstander said:
The problem then becomes that people from the pockets of higher infection rates will just go to the pub in the rural areas taking their infection with them and sharing it out.

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I've been crazy careful this entire time but pissed and depressed I only half jokingly suggested jumping on a train to North Yorkshire yesterday. Sadly you're completely right.
 
tonyfromalnwick said:
North Northumberland is fairly low, but we've been lumped in with the disease ridden cess pits in the south of the area.
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Alnwick is higher than most of the 'cesspits' of SE Northumberland. Well apart from Ashington and Blyth. It's West Northumberland that's the mess right now especially Haltwhistle which is one of (if not) the worst areas in the UK
 
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