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Dick Advocaat first spell

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Sorry it's old ground, just waiting for a plane (pathetic)

Watching some old vids. He's tarnished by taking the job full time, how the fuck did he keep that team up.

Deserves more credit for that, 8 or 9 games left, suddenly goes 3 up front with Defoe on the wing, Christ, not for me, but it worked

Benitez is a better manager but big dick is the perfect example of why he failed first year, instant results is what you need then
 

He just puzzled me, like you say when he came in he was very pragmatic and found a system that worked. Of course he was let down in the transfer market but didn't help himself by signing his mates like Ola and Lens. But what annoyed me the most was his ridiculous gung ho tactics in his second spell. It was so at odds to his first spell. Never mind just another chapter in our list of failings.
 
PallionPeasant said:
He just puzzled me, like you say when he came in he was very pragmatic and found a system that worked. Of course he was let down in the transfer market but didn't help himself by signing his mates like Ola and Lens. But what annoyed me the most was his ridiculous gung ho tactics in his second spell. It was so at odds to his first spell. Never mind just another chapter in our list of failings.
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Ellis doesn't give any manager proper money anymore so they sign players they know. Advocaat, Moyes and Grayson have done it.
 
Excluding the disaster at home to Palace he had us organised and hard to beat, it makes it even more odd how poor we were after he came back. It was like he took everything we'd looked good at under him the year before and threw it out the window.
 
PallionPeasant said:
He just puzzled me, like you say when he came in he was very pragmatic and found a system that worked. Of course he was let down in the transfer market but didn't help himself by signing his mates like Ola and Lens. But what annoyed me the most was his ridiculous gung ho tactics in his second spell. It was so at odds to his first spell. Never mind just another chapter in our list of failings.
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To be fair Lens is a good footballer. He came in expecting a side to be built by Dick and then was dumped in alongside Cattermole and Rodwell and just thought 'what's the point'. Dick left and he was frozen out. On paper he was a good signing, and probably the most talented footballer in the squad until Khazri and Kirchhoff displaced him. I don't really think it's a fair stick to beat Dick with.

What he shouldn't be forgiven for is Johnson getting the armband against Leicester (?). Despicable.
 
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You're right he does deserve credit for that.

Him returning however was ridiculous for both parties in hindsight.
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Don't think it helped him being on a one year 'interim' contract. Would have had difficulty attracting players not knowing who the next manager would be etc. No problem with him coming back, but more a long term strategy/replacement should have also been on board.
 
Apart from Lens I don't think he got his transfer targets he was after, was looking at Propper and Klaaassen from Holland but we ended up forcing the Borini transfer through and that was the beginning of the end.
 
Cant have a bad word said about Dicky like, That Arsenal performance away was legendary :cool: Crying at the end bless him.

Shouldn't have returned though - His transfers didn't really live up to the expectation but he brought the calibre of player (at the time) we were crying out for.

Yedlin, M'Vila, Lens, Borini, all on paper good signings.

To think Allardyce then brought in Kirchoff, Khazri & Kone, got the best out of Defoe (nearer the end) and we literally had a very decent side.

Makes the David Moyes appointment even worse, how on earth did he screw that up so badly. Now all the above aside from Kone have left and we are scraping the barrel with James Vaughan & Lewis Grabban, dear me what a mess. David Moyes should literally never get another job in football. :neutral:
 
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