Depression

[STHLM]

It is yes. I was in a pretty bad place earlier in the year but I'm more settled now.

Glad things are better for you. You seem to be a very kind person and deserve to have good things happen.

Yep I definitely do this and to make it worse so does our lass which means it can have twice the impact. Its led to huge arguments about a wedding we are meant to be going to together.

I also get really down after something I've been looking forward to is over. Like holiday blues but it can apply to absolutely anything from going for a meal to watching the bairn perform in a show. Its a strange feeling as I know I am being daft but can't shake the

Perhaps social events, which you've actually really enjoyed, drain your mental and emotional energy so you feel a bit down until you get the downtime you need to pick up again.

This happens a lot to introverts (like me).

 

[Ciro_DiMarzio]

Glad things are better for you. You seem to be a very kind person and deserve to have good things happen.

Perhaps social events, which you've actually really enjoyed, drain your mental and emotional energy so you feel a bit down until you get the downtime you need to pick up again.

This happens a lot to introverts (like me).

I think that's probably a massive factor mate.

 

[bagpiperay]

Yeah it is a strange thing because I know when I am doing it and know that it is irrational but can't do anything to stop myself from doing it.

That's why a therapeutic relationship with a Cognitive Behavioural Therapist or counsellor can be so advantageous. In respect of CBT in particular, a therapsit They will explain the relationship between thoughts, feelings and behaviours and how each impact on the other. They often use diagrams to show this. They help you to understand why things are happening in the here and now unlike, say, Freudian psychotherapy which might explain your reactions to events in terms of your past. CBT brings insight so that you can choose to work in a partnership to see how your negative way of thinking develops and is maintained. Then you might have a chance of changing that.

An example might be something like, if you saw your best friend on the other side of the road and on seeing you he just looked away. What would you think? You might have the thought that it was an ignorant thing to do, especially of a so-called friend. The consequence might be to feel angry and more thoughts might follow such as 'wait till I see him next time, ...' Or you might not think of anything but just feel miffed at his behaviour. Result, thoughts like 'I'll ignore him. That's me and him finished. I thought he was my friend" etc'. Your behaviour might be expected in thinking that way. Or you might just have had neutral thoughts wondering why he was acting strangely, with little consequence on your further thoughts or behaviour at the time or subsequently. The next day he knocks on your door to apologise and explains he'd had some bad news that his grandmother had died suddenly and he was too upset to talk. Instantly you might feel pity, regret at your previous feelings and your thoughts and you pour out sympathy at his upset and feel guilty because of your own thoughts of malice towards him.

The point is this, no-one knew why your friend behaved in this way but, at times, people tend to think 'negative automatic thoughts' (nat's) and this leads to unhelpful feelings and actions. Anxious people tend to think thoughts causing them to become more anxious and try to analyze their behaviours to explain this rebuff. They might feel guilty and unworthy with their own thoughts confirming their total uselessness as a friend, as a person and as someone who can be trusted. As the thoughts are automatic, we are not aware of them, we being caught in emotions and feelings rather being rational and thinking. A therapist can help with situations and can help the patient develop insight to their unhelpful thinking styles and can help a patient make more rational decisions and develop more adaptive thinking styles and behaviours to handling situations. Making lists of nat's and situations in a daily diary between therapy sessions might be called for as part of your agreement to make progress with your issues.

 

[S.S.R..]

That's why a therapeutic relationship with a Cognitive Behavioural Therapist or counsellor can be so advantageous. In respect of CBT in particular, a therapsit They will explain the relationship between thoughts, feelings and behaviours and how each impact on the other. They often use diagrams to show this. They help you to understand why things are happening in the here and now unlike, say, Freudian psychotherapy which might explain your reactions to events in terms of your past. CBT brings insight so that you can choose to work in a partnership to see how your negative way of thinking develops and is maintained. Then you might have a chance of changing that.

Funny, I waited months to get seen, only to be asked questions about how I felt about certain things out of ten and quickly shuffled out of the door once she'd done the bare minimum to prove to her employers she'd done her job, despite telling her I had thoughts about topping myself.

Guess my life is expendable to some.

Of course, her job is f***ing bulletproof, because any claim she's done fuck all would be met with skepticism, because the patient is 'mentally ill'. The perfect skive.
Sorry to bang on about that again, but it really was farcical.
I'm actually feeling loads better at present.

 

[bagpiperay]

Funny, I waited months to get seen, only to be asked questions about how I felt about certain things out of ten and quickly shuffled out of the door once she'd done the bare minimum to prove to her employers she'd done her job, despite telling her I had thoughts about topping myself.

Guess my life is expendable to some.

Of course, her job is f***ing bulletproof, because any claim she's done fuck all would be met with skepticism, because the patient is 'mentally ill'. The perfect skive.

I did say, in my first sentence, ‘That's why a therapeutic relationship with a Cognitive Behavioural Therapist or counsellor can be so advantageous.‘ I’m afraid not all therapists of all kinds are equally good or effective. It depends on training, experience, the interpersonal skills of the therapist and so on. Scoring situations out of ten is normal in CBT. It helps in identifying priorities to work on as often there is a lot going on to be dealt with. Another question is, do you go for the most difficult issue or do you built confidence in the therapist or with the patient with small successes?

 

[S.S.R..]

I did say, in my first sentence, ‘That's why a therapeutic relationship with a Cognitive Behavioural Therapist or counsellor can be so advantageous.‘ I’m afraid not all therapists of all kinds are equally good or effective. It depends on training, experience, the interpersonal skills of the therapist and so on. Scoring situations out of ten is normal in CBT. It helps in identifying priorities to work on as often there is a lot going on to be dealt with. Another question is, do you go for the most difficult issue or do you built confidence in the therapist or with the patient with small successes?

Hope you don't think I was getting at you! I'm sure CBT is very effective if you actually get a therapist with scruples.

 

[Billericay Dichio]

It is yes. I was in a pretty bad place earlier in the year but I'm more settled now.

Good to see you back. Place hasn't been the same without you.

 

[bagpiperay]

Hope you don't think I was getting at you! I'm sure CBT is very effective if you actually get a therapist with scruples.

I completely agree. I can truly see where you are coming from. In your case, without knowing a great deal more about you or your issues, I’d be wondering why the therapist seem to focus on your issues from the outset without first assessing your current potential for self harming behaviour. I assume she would have taken a patient history and then assessed the current situation to ensure there were safeguards available to you.

 

[Hendon Mad Frog]

I need to turn my drinking around, but I'm stuck in that place where social events, especially ones where I don't know anyone, are torture without a fair bit of alcohol to take the edge off.

I went out for a few on Saturday and I'm still in a stonking mood today. It puts me in a terrible state of mind for days on end, full of anxiety and intrusive thoughts.

I'm definitely one of those people mentioned above, i.e. the one who catastrophes every social event. I live very much in my own head and this makes it very difficult to talk to people because I'm always trying to think of an answer or something to say but then the conversation has moved on.

I'm getting more and more worried that these poor social skills could be a sign of autism, and if anything that makes the future even bleaker as there is no cure and it's a lifetime of learning masking techniques that eventually just lead to burnout.

 

[lucky]

I need to turn my drinking around, but I'm stuck in that place where social events, especially ones where I don't know anyone, are torture without a fair bit of alcohol to take the edge off.

I went out for a few on Saturday and I'm still in a stonking mood today. It puts me in a terrible state of mind for days on end, full of anxiety and intrusive thoughts.

I'm definitely one of those people mentioned above, i.e. the one who catastrophes every social event. I live very much in my own head and this makes it very difficult to talk to people because I'm always trying to think of an answer or something to say but then the conversation has moved on.

I'm getting more and more worried that these poor social skills could be a sign of autism, and if anything that makes the future even bleaker as there is no cure and it's a lifetime of learning masking techniques that eventually just lead to burnout.

The thing when I packed in they actually told me events i have to go to ,go an hour late and leave an hour early i had 2 funerals that week which I explained and am sure going an hour late just defeats the purpose. I still find it hard at social events now and it's been a year for me with no drink now. Drink is so hard to give up and definitely look into the autism things as at the end of the day there might be better coping techniques but it's definitely nothing to be ashamed of having autism. Good luck and send all the love and luck in the world to everyone struggling out there .

 

[Midday Sun Englishman]

I did say, in my first sentence, ‘That's why a therapeutic relationship with a Cognitive Behavioural Therapist or counsellor can be so advantageous.‘ I’m afraid not all therapists of all kinds are equally good or effective. It depends on training, experience, the interpersonal skills of the therapist and so on. Scoring situations out of ten is normal in CBT. It helps in identifying priorities to work on as often there is a lot going on to be dealt with. Another question is, do you go for the most difficult issue or do you built confidence in the therapist or with the patient with small successes?

FWIW, I have found CBT to be extremely effective in "de-catastrophizing" situations. I did have a great therapist though.

 

[Five-Quarter]

I fear CBT might be beyond the grasp of many

I'd be happy to be proved wrong mind

Only, I can remember the GP saying it's an option but it's a long wait mind, it'll be at least 6 months

I reckoned she was trying to dissuade me bothering them again but that may have been how I was feeling. Stupid thing is, if I hadn't felt like that I'd have likely been seen by now

I don't think I like my GP practice much.

Trying to weigh up whether to attempt the 8 am madness for a telephone appointment today.

Have to leave the house at ten past so will probably get nowhere and the voice in my head says don't bother anyway because you've tried them loads of times

 

[Billericay Dichio]

I fear CBT might be beyond the grasp of many

I'd be happy to be proved wrong mind

Only, I can remember the GP saying it's an option but it's a long wait mind, it'll be at least 6 months

I reckoned she was trying to dissuade me bothering them again but that may have been how I was feeling. Stupid thing is, if I hadn't felt like that I'd have likely been seen by now

I don't think I like my GP practice much.

Trying to weigh up whether to attempt the 8 am madness for a telephone appointment today.

Have to leave the house at ten past so will probably get nowhere and the voice in my head says don't bother anyway because you've tried them loads of times

Even reading a book on CBT can be helpful. Every little bit of understanding what is happening is useful. There are techniques that can be self-taught. Good luck.

 

[Five-Quarter]

Even reading a book on CBT can be helpful. Every little bit of understanding what is happening is useful. There are techniques that can be self-taught. Good luck.

Sounds a good idea actually. I should have been thinking along more proactive lines long before now.

I seem to have been prescribed 2 or 4 weeks of Trazodone. At least I think that's what he said. Couldn't really understand him. He sounded sick of his life.

Seemed a bit easy - yeeee we'll give this a go shall we?

 

[lucky]

Sounds a good idea actually. I should have been thinking along more proactive lines long before now.

I seem to have been prescribed 2 or 4 weeks of Trazodone. At least I think that's what he said. Couldn't really understand him. He sounded sick of his life.

Seemed a bit easy - yeeee we'll give this a go shall we?

Hope they do something mate and are you going to that walking to keep blokes talking on Saturday.

 

[Five-Quarter]

Hope they do something mate and are you going to that walking to keep blokes talking on Saturday.

Think it's a bit of a trek to Shields from daaan sarf here in the East Durham AONB on the bus
Are you?

 

[lucky]

Think it's a bit of a trek to Shields from daaan sarf here in the East Durham AONB on the bus
Are you?

Nah mate too far for me to walk or I would have went, if I am up for it the next one will sort a lift out for you and can both do it together if you fancy that .

 

[Five-Quarter]

Nah mate too far for me to walk or I would have went, if I am up for it the next one will sort a lift out for you and can both do it together if you fancy that .

Well, my ankle probably won't do Shields to Sunderland anyway just yet

But yes definitely. That would be class. And for anyone else on this thread who hasn't been on the other one. Can get a bus to Sunderland easy enough like

 

[Gazoliver]

Nah mate too far for me to walk or I would have went, if I am up for it the next one will sort a lift out for you and can both do it together if you fancy that .

Count me in for that too

 

[GTG]

I don't know if anyone else watches Eastenders but in the last few weeks they have dealt with ADHD in adults and PTSD, and this week worked in CBT and EMDR, all in among the usual violence, blackmail and misery.

People slag off soaps but I think they do a fantastic job of raising awareness of all sorts of 'issues'.