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If people were a bit more educated about depression and I mean just cos you feel shit as a reaction to a situation which is natural and this will pass in time rather than thinking they're ill and going to their GP at a drop of a hat then things would be better for those with a more pressing need to be seen.

People seem unwilling to help themselves through times of feeling shit.
 

People seem unwilling to help themselves through times of feeling shit.

And from my experience those that are going to their GP going on about how "depressed" they are are often much less depressed than, like you say those unwilling and unable to help themselves due to being unwell.
 
And from my experience those that are going to their GP going on about how "depressed" they are are often much less depressed than, like you say those unwilling and unable to help themselves due to being unwell.

I said the other day the words, 'I'm a alcoholic', can sometimes be the beginning of the end for some, the GP diagnosing depression can have the same effect.
 
I said the other day the words, 'I'm a alcoholic', can sometimes be the beginning of the end for some, the GP diagnosing depression can have the same effect.

It's worrying how many people want a diagnosis of ill mental health. Like being given a diagnosis will resolve or absolve them of their problems and responsibilities.
 
There is a difference.

I've had depression in the past and as you know I've had a shit ton of bad luck over the last month or so that I've struggled with at times. Yes I feel down but I'm trying to get on and sort things out. That's one of the differences - if I was depressed I would have just lost interest in everything and wouldn't be able to make the effort to do things.
I would hazard a guess that your sheer bloody mindedness to keep looking after and providing for your kids and dogs, and all the non stop work that goes with it, keeps you out of depression.
 
Did you see him in his last few weeks of life like? When was the last time you saw him before his death out of interest?

He was at an art gallery the day before he commited suicide, apart from looking frail and thin he was smartly dressed and appeared in high spirits.
In one of the images taken of Williams on Saturday, obtained by gossip website , the actor is seen mingling with other guests with a slight smile on his lean face.

In another shot, the actor is pictured from behind looking painfully thin and stooped, his black short-sleeved short revealing bony arms.

Artist Mark Jaeger, whose ceramic works were featured in an exhibition that night, told TMZ that the actor spent about an hour at the reception and seemed to be in high spirits, talking and laughing with other guests.


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Fella down the road says he's got depression, he's persuaded the GP to sign him off because he's got depression, his marriage is bust (completely his fault, cant keep his cock in his pants) and he says this is depressing him. He's 50 and got a back problem (which doesn't stop him doing anything he wants to if he feels like it) and this depresses him. There is more but I'll spare you. He's all over Facebook yakking on about his depression and how people who haven't had it don't understand.

Scuse me pal but I think you have an advanced case of feeling sorry for yourself, not depression....there's a difference. I kind of fancy those with proper depression don't run up and down the street telling all and sundry about it.

Or am I a cynic?
Bang out of order saying that like depression is a horrible illness and it's people like you who stop people who are in need from coming forward ! If his wife has left him it's an awful thing I wouldn't wish on anyone
 
He was at an art gallery the day before he commited suicide, apart from looking frail and thin he was smartly dressed and appeared in high spirits.

You see the problem with people who want to kill themselves and I mean truly want to kill themselves not just think they want to die or are saying it cos they want to get attention is that a really suicisal person doesn't sit there and tell everyone snort it and as such it is very difficult to prevent in those that really want to do it. If someone is sitting telling someone how suicidal they are they don't really want to die because as soon as you start telling people then those around you will make an effort to stop you. I know this sort of contradicts my point but believe me when I tell you that the way a truely depressed person and a person who's mood is simply low present are very different. If I wasn't able to distinguish between the two I simply wouldn't be able to do my job and I'd end up making wrong decisions about the advice and treatment that the people I see receive which ultimatly could end in deaths, something which so far anyway has not happened.

Bang out of order saying that like depression is a horrible illness and it's people like you who stop people who are in need from coming forward ! If his wife has left him it's an awful thing I wouldn't wish on anyone

But if he was shagging about then the way he feels has been brought on by his own actions, you know cause and effect. If I went and did things that put me in a situation that made me unhappy then I'd feel shit, that's natural. The point is tho is there is a world of difference between doing something or something happening in life that effects the way you feel that such as the OP describes and it being a part of life and being clinically depressed.

If a man cheats on his wife, she ends the relationship, loses his job and ends up living in some awful flat after living in a nice family home for years do you not think he's gonna feel bad? Of course he is! The man is responsible for his own actions tho. He didn't have to cheat on his wife, he didn't have to continue to drink. These are choices that he made that ultimately put him in his state of mind. So how do you help this man when he comes asking for help? Medication? Is a tablet gonna wind back the clock and make him not cheat? Is a tablet gonna give his children the respect for their dad back? NO of course it's not because you know what mate in life if you do things then you've got to live with them. It's why you teach children responsibility. I could do and rob a post office today, if I got caught I'd end up in prison and you know what I'd feel "depressed" so you know what I'm not gonna do it! Big big difference to a person who sits and sufferers from a biological depression.
 
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I was doing well until recently, I fell out with my best friend because I lent her money and it became clear she wasnt making any effort to pay me back, a friend before that did the same. So its made me think no-one wants to be friends with me only take advantage of me. Certainly zero chance of getting a girlfriend. I also missed out on college because I had no confidence in even applying.

probably less of a case of depression more a case for 'man up' but I dont have a single thing going for me so I dont see the point.
 
I was doing well until recently, I fell out with my best friend because I lent her money and it became clear she wasnt making any effort to pay me back, a friend before that did the same. So its made me think no-one wants to be friends with me only take advantage of me. Certainly zero chance of getting a girlfriend. I also missed out on college because I had no confidence in even applying.

probably less of a case of depression more a case for 'man up' but I dont have a single thing going for me so I dont see the point.
man the fuck up
 
I was doing well until recently, I fell out with my best friend because I lent her money and it became clear she wasnt making any effort to pay me back, a friend before that did the same. So its made me think no-one wants to be friends with me only take advantage of me. Certainly zero chance of getting a girlfriend. I also missed out on college because I had no confidence in even applying.

probably less of a case of depression more a case for 'man up' but I dont have a single thing going for me so I dont see the point.
Was she really not making an effort or is it just you`ve got yourself in that much of a shite place that your own mind is twisting it?Is it not the depression making you think no one wants to be friends and are only out to take advantage even though thats not true at all?
And how have you missed out on college? theres no age limit matey, plenty of people take a year out then go into it.
Dont know how your set up in regards to help or owt Chris but pm if you want to have a rant and get things out matey
 
man the fuck up
Hookers and blow?
Was she really not making an effort or is it just you`ve got yourself in that much of a shite place that your own mind is twisting it?Is it not the depression making you think no one wants to be friends and are only out to take advantage even though thats not true at all?
And how have you missed out on college? theres no age limit matey, plenty of people take a year out then go into it.
Dont know how your set up in regards to help or owt Chris but pm if you want to have a rant and get things out matey

Nah she wasn't making an effort, she'd say she was but then she'd be on facebook saying she's bought this and that, was a year and a half since I lent her the money and she said she'd give me it back in few weeks after I gave to her! I missed the enrolment, so would have to wait another year for college, unless im wrong? Cheers mate.

I don't think I offer anything in the way of friendship other than lending them money, don't have much of a personality and just whinge on all the time :lol:
 
Hookers and blow?


Nah she wasn't making an effort, she'd say she was but then she'd be on facebook saying she's bought this and that, was a year and a half since I lent her the money and she said she'd give me it back in few weeks after I gave to her! I missed the enrolment, so would have to wait another year for college, unless im wrong? Cheers mate.

I don't think I offer anything in the way of friendship other than lending them money, don't have much of a personality and just whinge on all the time :lol:
 
I was doing well until recently, I fell out with my best friend because I lent her money and it became clear she wasnt making any effort to pay me back, a friend before that did the same. So its made me think no-one wants to be friends with me only take advantage of me. Certainly zero chance of getting a girlfriend. I also missed out on college because I had no confidence in even applying.

probably less of a case of depression more a case for 'man up' but I dont have a single thing going for me so I dont see the point.


she should pay you back by using her gashcard
 
Hookers and blow?


Nah she wasn't making an effort, she'd say she was but then she'd be on facebook saying she's bought this and that, was a year and a half since I lent her the money and she said she'd give me it back in few weeks after I gave to her! I missed the enrolment, so would have to wait another year for college, unless im wrong? Cheers mate.

I don't think I offer anything in the way of friendship other than lending them money, don't have much of a personality and just whinge on all the time :lol:
You sound depressed .
 
Hookers and blow?


Nah she wasn't making an effort, she'd say she was but then she'd be on facebook saying she's bought this and that, was a year and a half since I lent her the money and she said she'd give me it back in few weeks after I gave to her! I missed the enrolment, so would have to wait another year for college, unless im wrong? Cheers mate.

I don't think I offer anything in the way of friendship other than lending them money, don't have much of a personality and just whinge on all the time :lol:
aye thats what i meant about college but the way your post sounded it sounded like youd convinced yourself youd missed it for good

You sound depressed .
No shit sherlock!!! nee wonder the NHS is screwed wi expert diagnosis ike that mind;)
 
aye thats what i meant about college but the way your post sounded it sounded like youd convinced yourself youd missed it for good


No shit sherlock!!! nee wonder the NHS is screwed wi expert diagnosis ike that mind;)
It's a start , fully recognising that the content of the thought is a function of depression not a quality of the person . Duuh!! ;)
 
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