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Cognitive behavioural therapy can be very effective in treating depression. In CBT there is the belief that people's moods can effect their thought patterns. Negative thoughts/core beliefs can hugely effect a persons wellbeing even physically. The aim with CBT is to help a person to recognise their negative thought patterns, some of which can be unconscious and to replace them with healthier ways of thinking. It works particularly well with depression.
 

Cognitive behavioural therapy can be very effective in treating depression. In CBT there is the belief that people's moods can effect their thought patterns. Negative thoughts/core beliefs can hugely effect a persons wellbeing even physically. The aim with CBT is to help a person to recognise their negative thought patterns, some of which can be unconscious and to replace them with healthier ways of thinking. It works particularly well with depression.

When I went to my GP regarding some 'problems' in my life they just gave me some leaflets re: CBT and left me to get on with it! There are a few websites that the NHS point people towards.

The talking therapies were OK but I often left the sessions feeling more frustrated than before as the counsellor can't actually give any advice but tries to lead you towards solving out stuff for yourself. But like I've probably said before, my issue was that there weren't straightforward answers to the problems.

I think that people need to try out different solutions though until they find something that works and I was determined not to use medication even though it might have worked for me.
 
Cognitive behavioural therapy can be very effective in treating depression. In CBT there is the belief that people's moods can effect their thought patterns. Negative thoughts/core beliefs can hugely effect a persons wellbeing even physically. The aim with CBT is to help a person to recognise their negative thought patterns, some of which can be unconscious and to replace them with healthier ways of thinking. It works particularly well with depression.
It works for me.I Felt it coming on a couple of week ago again, hence my struggling again post earlier in the thread, concentrated on my little goals to keep me moving and its looking like ive managed to head it off before it gets "set in" again properly, for want of a better term
 
When I went to my GP regarding some 'problems' in my life they just gave me some leaflets re: CBT and left me to get on with it! There are a few websites that the NHS point people towards.

The talking therapies were OK but I often left the sessions feeling more frustrated than before as the counsellor can't actually give any advice but tries to lead you towards solving out stuff for yourself. But like I've probably said before, my issue was that there weren't straightforward answers to the problems.

I think that people need to try out different solutions though until they find something that works and I was determined not to use medication even though it might have worked for me.
What counselling can give to a person is a non judgemental space to be heard and to be allowed speak and voice feelings that you might never get to do anywhere else. Sometimes to be heard is all a person needs. As you rightly say what works for one person may not work for another.
 
It works for me.I Felt it coming on a couple of week ago again, hence my struggling again post earlier in the thread, concentrated on my little goals to keep me moving and its looking like ive managed to head it off before it gets "set in" again properly, for want of a better term


Well done, marra. ;)
 
What counselling can give to a person is a non judgemental space to be heard and to be allowed speak and voice feelings that you might never get to do anywhere else. Sometimes to be heard is all a person needs. As you rightly say what works for one person may not work for another.
This as well. The ability to just to waffle about the complete shite thats stuck in your head without the accompanying guilt that your burdening freinds or family with it is a massive relief in its self.
 
This as well. The ability to just to waffle about the complete shite thats stuck in your head without the accompanying guilt that your burdening freinds or family with it is a massive relief in its self.
How many of us have friends or family that will listen to us for a whole hour without wanting to jump in after every sentence? :)
 
This as well. The ability to just to waffle about the complete shite thats stuck in your head without the accompanying guilt that your burdening freinds or family with it is a massive relief in its self.
The only problem I found was that to solve the issues in my life would mean I'd have to be a bit selfish and society doesn't usually think too kindly of that type of behaviour. E.g.

My problems:

1. I don't like my job, commuting is a pain.
2. My ex annoys me and makes me feel guilty about the split.
3. Fed up of DIY, house maintenance etc.

My solution:

Resign from job, sell house, move somewhere else, live on a barge or in rented accommodation, get a job that I like close to where I live.

For every solution (and it seems quite simple) I could see a drawback and a responsibility that meant I couldn't do it.

Reasons to stop me:

1. The job is decent, I'd struggle to get a better one, good pension etc.
2. I couldn't move too far from my kid.
3. You have to live somewhere, perhaps I just take it personally when something goes wrong with a house, car, other inanimate object?!

I hope this makes sense. In the end I sort of trained myself to be thankful with what I have and to try to deal with each problem as it arises. I do sometimes still feel overwhelmed with life in general but this must be the same for most working parents.
 
The only problem I found was that to solve the issues in my life would mean I'd have to be a bit selfish and society doesn't usually think too kindly of that type of behaviour. E.g.

My problems:

1. I don't like my job, commuting is a pain.
2. My ex annoys me and makes me feel guilty about the split.
3. Fed up of DIY, house maintenance etc.

My solution:

Resign from job, sell house, move somewhere else, live on a barge or in rented accommodation, get a job that I like close to where I live.

For every solution (and it seems quite simple) I could see a drawback and a responsibility that meant I couldn't do it.

Reasons to stop me:

1. The job is decent, I'd struggle to get a better one, good pension etc.
2. I couldn't move too far from my kid.
3. You have to live somewhere, perhaps I just take it personally when something goes wrong with a house, car, other inanimate object?!

I hope this makes sense. In the end I sort of trained myself to be thankful with what I have and to try to deal with each problem as it arises. I do sometimes still feel overwhelmed with life in general but this must be the same for most working parents.


Most working parents have similar problems, you are not alone, marra. ;)
 
How many of us have friends or family that will listen to us for a whole hour without wanting to jump in after every sentence? :)

What I learned was that even people who you trust and who you think want the best for you, have their own agenda.

E.g. my best mate would listen to me and try to help but over the past 25 years he has built up his own idea of my persona. It sometimes suits him that I'm a bit pessimistic and have a melancholy outlook to life as he then always appears to be bright and breezy! Perhaps I am doubting people too much and not trusting them but it's amazing how many people out there can bring you down and you need to learn to cut them out of your life.[DOUBLEPOST=1385546158][/DOUBLEPOST]
Most working parents have similar problems, you are not alone, marra. ;)

My solution would be to pack in work or sell the kids.
 
Small steps small changes. You're never going to find solutions to all your perceived problems at once but you might be able to make suitable changes that will help you in one area.
 
Know this is a pretty frequently discussed topic on here and a lot of good advice is given so here goes.

Been suffering from depression for years and I'm currently going through one of those stages where I'm just constantly feeling shit no matter what I do and am really struggling to get up in the morning to go to work and can barely go an hour without having a suicidal thought, took an overdose of pills last year but that didn't work and in all honesty I feel like I did around that time, but don't really have the bottle to try owt like that again. Know fine well that I don't help myself in some aspects but just want to get to the point where I can live a relatively normal life.

I'm not especially close to my family and whilst I do love them I can't really bring myself to confide in them, been fucked about and fobbed off at every opportunity by the doctors whenever I go to see them about it, I do know that I can always tell my best friend but I don't want to bother them again with this shit, especially after a little drunken heart-to-heart we had last night, so just thought I'd give this a go.

Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm!
 
What I learned was that even people who you trust and who you think want the best for you, have their own agenda.

E.g. my best mate would listen to me and try to help but over the past 25 years he has built up his own idea of my persona. It sometimes suits him that I'm a bit pessimistic and have a melancholy outlook to life as he then always appears to be bright and breezy! Perhaps I am doubting people too much and not trusting them but it's amazing how many people out there can bring you down and you need to learn to cut them out of your life.[DOUBLEPOST=1385546158][/DOUBLEPOST]

My solution would be to pack in work or sell the kids.
Everyone's advice is naturally tinged with what would be best for themselves in the same situation...which may not necessarily be best for you. I relate to what you're saying about people building up their own ideas about your persona too. 'You know what you're like when you're off on one' has been used to dismiss thoughts I've had on things which were valid and unrelated to depression. At the end of the day, only you can live your own life; something I'm trying to learn how to do.
 
The only problem I found was that to solve the issues in my life would mean I'd have to be a bit selfish and society doesn't usually think too kindly of that type of behaviour. E.g.

My problems:

1. I don't like my job, commuting is a pain.
2. My ex annoys me and makes me feel guilty about the split.
3. Fed up of DIY, house maintenance etc.

My solution:

Resign from job, sell house, move somewhere else, live on a barge or in rented accommodation, get a job that I like close to where I live.

For every solution (and it seems quite simple) I could see a drawback and a responsibility that meant I couldn't do it.

Reasons to stop me:

1. The job is decent, I'd struggle to get a better one, good pension etc.
2. I couldn't move too far from my kid.
3. You have to live somewhere, perhaps I just take it personally when something goes wrong with a house, car, other inanimate object?!

I hope this makes sense. In the end I sort of trained myself to be thankful with what I have and to try to deal with each problem as it arises. I do sometimes still feel overwhelmed with life in general but this must be the same for most working parents.


Fuck what society thinks. I was living a life of quiet desperation (as the saying goes) because I lacked the guts to be with the person I wanted to be with. Now I am happy, but the debris in my wake is enormous - angry kids, bitter ex wife, friends relatives gonee, job lost even my health. Do I regret it? Despite the gult, no. In the end you live your life for yourself not others. And also, in the end, those others live their own lives and are not as dependent on you as you might think (but the buggers will twist the knife regardless). Do it now while you can.
 
When I went to my GP regarding some 'problems' in my life they just gave me some leaflets re: CBT and left me to get on with it! There are a few websites that the NHS point people towards.

The talking therapies were OK but I often left the sessions feeling more frustrated than before as the counsellor can't actually give any advice but tries to lead you towards solving out stuff for yourself. But like I've probably said before, my issue was that there weren't straightforward answers to the problems.

I think that people need to try out different solutions though until they find something that works and I was determined not to use medication even though it might have worked for me.
Just my thoughts. Counselling is great but I find it very difficult. It drags out all your shit you have neatly repressed and then leaves you to deal with it. Which is good but very difficult.
I prefer physical activity and music to cure oneself.
 


Came across this. Might be helpful to someone.
That's very good , the first thing to remember I think is that the black dog is a stray , he doesn't belong to you , you don't owe him anything. We get in a position where he obliges us to change our life for the worse .
Act as if he is not wanted and he tends to go away for a bit
 
Just my thoughts. Counselling is great but I find it very difficult. It drags out all your shit you have neatly repressed and then leaves you to deal with it. Which is good but very difficult.
I prefer physical activity and music to cure oneself.
I have a feeling that you have never been repressed. Just saying like....
 
I have a feeling that you have never been repressed. Just saying like....
Well you'd be wrong, not bragging but I'm so repressed cbt had no chance with me :)

I can't enjoy a proper good book or film or play my violin aasit requires too much from me.

I think it has been long enough and I am gearing myself up to start playing my violin which is key to unlocking loads.
 
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