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eddyfinn

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If playing a defensive stroke which hits the bat but then goes backwards towards the stumps are you then allowed to use the bat for a second time to stop the ball from hitting the wickets?

I thought this would be classed as a double hit, which the batsmen could then be given out for. Saw this happen this weekend so want some confirmation either way.
 

eddyfinn said:
If playing a defensive stroke which hits the bat but then goes backwards towards the stumps are you then allowed to use the bat for a second time to stop the ball from hitting the wickets?

I thought this would be classed as a double hit, which the batsmen could then be given out for. Saw this happen this weekend so want some confirmation either way.
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I don't think it's out. But I don't know the law, I always thought it was as you've said but I've recently heard you're ok to do it.
 
your both correct found the rule
Law 34 (Hit the ball twice)
1. Out Hit the ball twice
(a) The striker is out Hit the ball twice if, while the ball is in play, it strikes any part of his person or is struck by his bat and, before the ball has been touched by a fielder, he wilfully strikes it again with his bat or person, other than a hand not holding the bat, except for the sole purpose of guarding his wicket. See 3 below and Laws 33 (Handled the ball) and 37 (Obstructing the field).
(b) For the purpose of this Law, 'struck' or 'strike' shall include contact with the person of the striker.

you would have to do something really stupid to get out hitting the ball twice
 
eddyfinn said:
If playing a defensive stroke which hits the bat but then goes backwards towards the stumps are you then allowed to use the bat for a second time to stop the ball from hitting the wickets?

I thought this would be classed as a double hit, which the batsmen could then be given out for. Saw this happen this weekend so want some confirmation either way.
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It wouldn't be out, but of you were unsure and were in a position to do so you could kick it away?
 
Had a one yesterday, lad plays ball it runs back and onto stumps but the bailes have been taken off because of the high winds.

What did the umpire give.
 
eddyfinn said:
out! As the umpire would have to preume the bails would have come off
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Actually, didn't happen the lad knocked it away just in time but the umpires were talking about it after the game. You are correct it's a judgement call by the umpire as to if the bails would have come off.
 
You can hit it with your bat or foot, but are unable to take any run. One thing you cant do it catch it or punch it away (ala Graham Gooch, Michael Vaughan)
 
mikemanc said:
As long as it's hit something else first to deflect it towards the stumps. Can't say you aren't lbw because you were kicking it away :lol:
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Aye well he said it had come off the bat first

hutch said:
You can hit it with your bat or foot, but are unable to take any run. One thing you cant do it catch it or punch it away (ala Graham Gooch, Michael Vaughan)
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I remember that Vaughan dismissal, looked like a right tit :lol:
 
I did it on Sunday (again) never thought there was a problem as protecting wicket and not any intention of playing a scoring shot. If you attempted a scoring shot then if an appeal is made I believe you would be given out.
 
The Voice Of Reason said:
Had a one yesterday, lad plays ball it runs back and onto stumps but the bailes have been taken off because of the high winds.

What did the umpire give.
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Would the umpire have to give not out? i'm thinking along the line of if the bails are off the stump would have to come out??
 
SAFC2403 said:
Would the umpire have to give not out? i'm thinking along the line of if the bails are off the stump would have to come out??
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Square legs call if he thinks it would have knocked the bails off it's out
 
The Voice Of Reason said:
the bailes have been taken off because of the high winds.

What did the umpire give.
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Remember when sky started covering 4day county games a few year back (something they hardly seem to do these days) this happened and even the heavy bailes wouldnt stop on so they had to press on without any...!
 
Mackem DJ said:
Remember when sky started covering 4day county games a few year back (something they hardly seem to do these days) this happened and even the heavy bailes wouldnt stop on so they had to press on without any...!
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Happens now and again heavy bails wouldn't stop on Sunday
 
Mackem DJ said:
Remember when sky started covering 4day county games a few year back (something they hardly seem to do these days) this happened and even the heavy bailes wouldnt stop on so they had to press on without any...!
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It happened in the Durham game on Monday.
 
SAFC2403 said:
Would the umpire have to give not out? i'm thinking along the line of if the bails are off the stump would have to come out??
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That certainly applies for runs out or stumpings where the bails have already come off.

My umpires guide states: "Either umpire must call and signal dead ball if a bail is blown off before the striker receives a delivery. Dead ball must not be called if a bail falls as the striker is playing the ball, or if the ball has passed him."
 
TwasOnTheFifthOfMay said:
That certainly applies for runs out or stumpings where the bails have already come off.
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That's where i was coming from

TwasOnTheFifthOfMay said:
My umpires guide states: "Either umpire must call and signal dead ball if a bail is blown off before the striker receives a delivery. Dead ball must not be called if a bail falls as the striker is playing the ball, or if the ball has passed him."
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So if the bail comes off during the shot and the ball hits the stumps would you give him out??
 
SAFC2403 said:
That's where i was coming from



So if the bail comes off during the shot and the ball hits the stumps would you give him out??
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I think I might have misunderstood your original post. Had the umpires decided to remove the bails or were they blown off?

My guide later says: "Umpires must decide from the facts before them when the wicket shall be considered to be down; their decision will be final. Only when the bails are dispensed with by the umpires will the wicket be considered to be down, even though a stump may not have been struck out of the ground."

So you can pick the bones out of that, but to me it looks like if the bails are blown off after you play your shot and the ball then hits the stumps you have been incredibly lucky, and can't be given out.
 
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