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lN5 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you lose £23m the season we went up?
We can assume this year will be similar, if not worse given promotion bonuses. So how will you be funding this spending spree if Doug hasn't got the means?
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£23m in losses last year following a £9m profit the season before.
 

lN5 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you lose £23m the season we went up?
We can assume this year will be similar, if not worse given promotion bonuses. So how will you be funding this spending spree if Doug hasn't got the means?
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Just being in the PL guarantees about £110m revenue in the first year. Then another £100m+ in parachute payments. So they should be sound financially as long as they don't do anything stupid.
 
There are three ways of going about promotion :

Cautious approach, buy with one eye on next season being back in the Championship but position yourself to be favourites to come back up before parachute payments end (see Burnley, Ipswich, Southampton)

Screw the system and chuck a load of money at it (see Forest).

A planned approach with key targets identified early (see Sunderland)

You'd hope having been in the Play Offs last year Coventry do have a plan, approach one is the one with the least risk as you're already planning for the worst, although the Ipswich and Burnley approach changed due to the obligated signings they have had to make on players untested in the top league who will stink the place out.

Our approach to this season had to have us get off to a reasonably good start and all of those signings to buy in to the journey of the club.
 
Ignoring my thoughts about their fans for a second*, it’ll be interesting to see how they get on next season if their club decides to retain the majority of the squad which has been alluded to by their owner. The likes of Brighton, Brentford & Bournemouth were miles and miles ahead of us before our summer recruitment, let alone the more established clubs.

* despite the coin throwing, the social media idiots and the sheer arrogance ‘Wembley 25’ from their fans and their sponsors before, during and after the 1st leg of last years POs, I’ve generally met decent Coventry fans on holiday etc.
 
LDNCCFC said:
Rushworth has had loads to do. We don't win the league without him.

His stats for a side who have effectively walked the league is remarkable. He's had to make 123 saves. Compare that to keepers last year. Those sort of numbers are what you'd see from sides being hammered every week.

Trafford - 88
Patterson - 91
Meslier - 65
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That doesn’t bode well for your current defence in the PL.
 
LDNCCFC said:
Peanuts really.

The interesting part will be if the CBS Arena becomes profitable in the 25-26 accounts. The club are banking on this becoming a key part with the PSR.
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Peanuts in terms of the stadium long term, but will definitely impact the clubs spending going into next season.
 
Sbarcher said:
Well, we've made it to the promised land after 25 years.

I was born at Thorpe hospital, Lived in Houghton and the rest of the family in Hetton.
I'm the 1st generation never to have worked down the pit. All my male relatives worked at Eppleton colliery.
My grandad occasionally would take me to Roker Park with my cracket on the minibus from the Three Tuns at Broomhill.
We moved down to Warwickshire when I was a nipper and started to go to Highfield Road with my mates.

So, I have a very keen interest in Sunderland being successful and hope you manage to finish above the Saudi oilers.

It's been said many times that what happened nearly 50 years ago was wrong. This was the actions of 1 man who thought he was acting in the best interest of his club. I would guess anyone in his position at whatever club would have done the same.

Of course we are likely to go straight back down next season, probably as bookies favourites.
Most fans are fully prepared for this and taking the benefit of the parachute payment with us will help in future years.

I have followed CCFC for many years, even seeing us beat Bayern Munich when Mueller, Maier, and Beckenbauer played.
Next year is for the generation of fans never to have seen us play at the top level.
Their football journey has been horrendous. Our shit owners sold Highfield road, couldn't afford the new stadium and had to be bailed out by the council, eventually selling to SISU. They were even worse, tried to buy the ground on the cheap by threatening then upping sticks to Northampton. We went bust and during this time dropped to L2. I took my grandson to his first football game at home to Yoevil - we lost 6-2. That's how far we had fallen.
Mark Robins steadied the ship and him and Ade Viveash (now at Boro) started the upward travel. This wasn't helped by the Council selling the ground to Wasps (without our knowledge) who churned up the pitch and piled on the rent and then kicked us out.
"Home" games went then to BCFC (with a one-off at Burton Albion) where the Covid year prevented us from celebrating as L1 champions.
MR and AV created some great memories at Wembley, even though Wright's big toe prevented us from making the greatest FA comeback against MU.

We finally saw off Wasps who issued a £36m bond to buy the stadium and then couldn't afford to pay it back - great news!

Welcome Doug King. - a local businessman who made a few bob and was a CCFC fan. He bought out SISU and then made the very unpopular decision to sack MR. To be honest since MR fell out with Ade and had him removed, Mark seemed a bit lost without his right hand man. King brought in Lampard with everyone thinking it's another Rooney/Gerrard appointment. Well, from 17th when he arrived to play offs was a fantastic run. No issues from me with you getting to the final.
This season King has bought the stadium, bought/loaned some key positions and despite out winter wobble have topped the league by 11 points.

King is a fan owner, who attends every match. He is not a billionaire and needs to be careful with his money and make sure we live within our means. His comments regarding Sunderland seem to have been taken out of context, not a criticism but just a way of saying that's how they did it but we can't follow that road.

Sorry for this rambling post, but we all know what a football club means to us. To me, there's no "shit", "tinpot" teams, just football clubs loved by their fans.
For Coventry I suspect the journey will be better than the destination, but at least we're there, and you never know - there's always hope.

See you next season.
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Good post and congrats on going up. I’ve said on here before that there is a lot of similarity between Coventry and Sunderland as a lot of people seem to move from the NE to Warwickshire. My other half is half Mackem through his feral grandparents (Seaham and Lumley) but he refuses to agree that being a Mackem is genetic.

Just wanted to pick up on Doug though - other half said he’d listened to an interview with him last week and he’s not from Coventry like I thought and he only bought you because he wanted to do something philanthropic. Said hes actually more of a rugby fan that footy. Thought that was interesting. I can find out the name of the pod cast if you like.

Anyway, good luck next season. Except against us obvs.
 
LDNCCFC said:
We don't like dominating the ball as much as you'd think. We have been more suited to counter attacking.

I am certainly not as confident as Astute but we do have players who will step up and give it a good go.
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You’ll need to replace at least 8 I would guess. Giving it a go won’t keep you up. You need at least 5 20m plus players.
 
Burnley are a perfect example of a promoted club not investing heavy they dominated the championship when they went up …. Now a championship club once again …. The gap is fkn huge between the prem and championship ..
 
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scott934 said:
They don't need to cost that. Roefs, Mukiele, Alderete, Reinildo combined were about £30m. They just need to be quality.
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We had excellent recruitment probably helped by Xhaka and with Ghisolfi here. Cov won’t have that. We still had Le Fee, Talbi, Diarra, Adingra, Geertuida and Sidiki values around the 20m mark. There’s a direct correlation in the number you get it. If you recruit 5 plus players of around the 20m mark you’ll make it. If you don’t you won’t…I just can’t see Cov repeating what we did in the summer. They’ll be more like Burnley.
 
Sbarcher said:
Well, we've made it to the promised land after 25 years.

I was born at Thorpe hospital, Lived in Houghton and the rest of the family in Hetton.
I'm the 1st generation never to have worked down the pit. All my male relatives worked at Eppleton colliery.
My grandad occasionally would take me to Roker Park with my cracket on the minibus from the Three Tuns at Broomhill.
We moved down to Warwickshire when I was a nipper and started to go to Highfield Road with my mates.

So, I have a very keen interest in Sunderland being successful and hope you manage to finish above the Saudi oilers.

It's been said many times that what happened nearly 50 years ago was wrong. This was the actions of 1 man who thought he was acting in the best interest of his club. I would guess anyone in his position at whatever club would have done the same.

Of course we are likely to go straight back down next season, probably as bookies favourites.
Most fans are fully prepared for this and taking the benefit of the parachute payment with us will help in future years.

I have followed CCFC for many years, even seeing us beat Bayern Munich when Mueller, Maier, and Beckenbauer played.
Next year is for the generation of fans never to have seen us play at the top level.
Their football journey has been horrendous. Our shit owners sold Highfield road, couldn't afford the new stadium and had to be bailed out by the council, eventually selling to SISU. They were even worse, tried to buy the ground on the cheap by threatening then upping sticks to Northampton. We went bust and during this time dropped to L2. I took my grandson to his first football game at home to Yoevil - we lost 6-2. That's how far we had fallen.
Mark Robins steadied the ship and him and Ade Viveash (now at Boro) started the upward travel. This wasn't helped by the Council selling the ground to Wasps (without our knowledge) who churned up the pitch and piled on the rent and then kicked us out.
"Home" games went then to BCFC (with a one-off at Burton Albion) where the Covid year prevented us from celebrating as L1 champions.
MR and AV created some great memories at Wembley, even though Wright's big toe prevented us from making the greatest FA comeback against MU.

We finally saw off Wasps who issued a £36m bond to buy the stadium and then couldn't afford to pay it back - great news!

Welcome Doug King. - a local businessman who made a few bob and was a CCFC fan. He bought out SISU and then made the very unpopular decision to sack MR. To be honest since MR fell out with Ade and had him removed, Mark seemed a bit lost without his right hand man. King brought in Lampard with everyone thinking it's another Rooney/Gerrard appointment. Well, from 17th when he arrived to play offs was a fantastic run. No issues from me with you getting to the final.
This season King has bought the stadium, bought/loaned some key positions and despite out winter wobble have topped the league by 11 points.

King is a fan owner, who attends every match. He is not a billionaire and needs to be careful with his money and make sure we live within our means. His comments regarding Sunderland seem to have been taken out of context, not a criticism but just a way of saying that's how they did it but we can't follow that road.

Sorry for this rambling post, but we all know what a football club means to us. To me, there's no "shit", "tinpot" teams, just football clubs loved by their fans.
For Coventry I suspect the journey will be better than the destination, but at least we're there, and you never know - there's always hope.

See you next season.
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Really interesting and informative post 👍.
Undoubtedly, you've been by far the best side in the championship this season and have fully deserved your title and promotion.
Coventry were always a top flight club in my childhood years and beyond and I'd personally love to see you stay up (but not at our expense if we manage to get up).
Ade is really popular at Boro, he did well when the rat left for Wolves and although he obviously didn't like the 'limelight' in his press conferences, he always came across really well and spoke a lot of sense.
Couldn't agree more about this 'tinpot' garbage as well.
All clubs are important to their own fans and this weird attitude of snobbery towards certain clubs is so disrespectful.
Certain people on here would do well to remember that the third tier was Sunderland's level not so long ago.

Anyway, best wishes to your club.
 
LDNCCFC said:
Depends how the stadium has been purchased. I've heard multiple different things but Doug King has been hush on it.
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If he has anything about him, which he absolutely does, he would be a fool not to use some even a small portion of the Premier League money towards it
 
twang said:
Burnley are a perfect example of a promoted club not investing heavy they dominated the championship when they went up …. Now a championship club once again …. The gap is fkn huge between the prem and championship ..
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Thing is Burnley have spent a fortune themselves, 120m when they got promoted under Kompany, 50m in the Championship season and then 120m this season.
 
Ronan Harazi's Leg said:
I think you're in for a very, very, rude awakening. Be good to come back to this thread in a year's time.
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It will.

There's no rude awakening for me. Look at how many sides go up and straight back down. Half that go up as champions stay up. The players have advanced very well under Lampard. It's difficult to say which players will step up and which ones won't.

If we didn't have Lampard I would be hoping just to not finish bottom. What he has done for us is give the players training and confidence to shoot from where he used to score from. Our GOTM has become what the GOTS used to look like.

I'm not saying we will stay up. But we have a better chance of staying up than many on here would like us to have.
 
Astute said:
It will.

There's no rude awakening for me. Look at how many sides go up and straight back down. Half that go up as champions stay up. The players have advanced very well under Lampard. It's difficult to say which players will step up and which ones won't.

If we didn't have Lampard I would be hoping just to not finish bottom. What he has done for us is give the players training and confidence to shoot from where he used to score from. Our GOTM has become what the GOTS used to look like.

I'm not saying we will stay up. But we have a better chance of staying up than many on here would like us to have.
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And how many of the teams that have stayed up as champions had just been relegated the season before that?
 
Dick Fitzwell said:
Leave them to enjoy their promotion and the euphoria of being back in the Premier League, the real work should be getting done behind the scenes now planning on their squad for the season ahead. For me the main concern would be if Lampard is actually good enough to handle the Premier League too as his record with Chelsea and Everton isn't fantastic.
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With Chelsea they were under a transfer embargo. He brought through young players and got them to 4th. He went to Everton to save them from relegation which he did. He took over Derby and got them to the playoff final against Villa. They lost 2-1 but IIRC their GK didn't make a save all game. He took us over just 2 points out of the relegation battle and into the playoffs. If you want to show you're not being truthful you can say you deserved to beat us.

Lampard isn't our problem. It's our supporters that have become used to winning. We're going to be playing in the Prem where single players have cost more than our squad yet they will still expect us to win games.
 
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