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County Cricket 2025

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SuperSub said:
It worked well back in 2023 when it was only 5 points for the draw as you saw a lot more teams go for a win, all the talk was they wanted to mirror the Stokes positive cricket mindset. But for some bizarre reason the ECB only kept that for a year and decided to put it back up to 8 points.
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It's the counties that voted for it to be changed not the ECB.
 

SuperSub said:
It worked well back in 2023 when it was only 5 points for the draw as you saw a lot more teams go for a win, all the talk was they wanted to mirror the Stokes positive cricket mindset. But for some bizarre reason the ECB only kept that for a year and decided to put it back up to 8 points.
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Counties voted to put it back to 8 for a draw.

Can't really bemoan the lack of interest in the county game, but make a draw a more viable outcome.

Edit: beaten to it above
 
Voice of fair play said:
Absolutely not of course he didn’t they had more than enough runs and definitely should have declared earlier,
I genuinely don’t think enough is made of it and captains escape criticism as traditionally it’s seen as batting teams out of the game.

The focus when you in a strong position is or should be to win the game yourselves
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Nonsense like sorry. Nout wrong with declaration they batted well
consettsafc said:
After his shithouse tactics at Durham I for one is delighted that he fucked it up
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What shithouse tactics? He scored 80 odd and saved the game
 
The reason you get these batter friendly pitches is probably more to do with the ECB pitch assessment system, which only ever marks down and gives penalties where they are too bowler friendly, and in particular where they are too spin friendly, then it does on how many points you get for a draw.

If you had no points at all for a draw, it still wouldn’t have made sense for Essex to chase 500+ on a fourth day turner at Chelmsford with four wickets already back in the hutch.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
You puzzle me at times mate, how can they be nowt wrong with a declaration when you have a team 9 wickets down and another 200 and odd runs to play with.

Obviously in that situation you question a declaration
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It’s just boring pub chat like, more than enough time to win, people just can’t accept that teams bat well. You puzzle me at times mate.
 
MustardAndOnions said:
It’s just boring pub chat like, more than enough time to win, people just can’t accept that teams bat well. You puzzle me at times mate.
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It’s just sensible maths and time, I more than accept they batted very well, but my point is even when batting well they were still over 200 runs short!!

It’s not a question of whether they was enough time ( I agree they was)

It’s a question of whether there was enough runs on the board to give themselves even more time to win the game and take the 10 wickets which obviously there was.

I really can’t believe a man of cricketing knowledge and experience can’t see they was more than enough runs on the board to declare earlier and give themselves even more time to win the game?
 
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Voice of fair play said:
It’s just sensible maths and time, I more than accept they batted very well, but my point is even when batting well they were still over 200 runs short!!

It’s not a question of whether they was enough time ( I agree they was)

It’s a question of whether there was enough runs on the board to give themselves even more time to win the game and take the 10 wickets which obviously there was.

I really can’t believe a man of cricketing knowledge and experience can’t see they was more than enough runs on the board to declare earlier and give themselves even more time to win the game?
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There have been only 2 occasions in the history of the county championship of a 4th innings total in excess of 500 runs. That stat shows how negative that declaration was.
 
MustardAndOnions said:
If you bat for 120 overs you deserve a draw like.

Declaration chat is just easy cricket convo for people who watched none of the game
133 overs on over 4 sessions. I mean how much time do you want man :lol:
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You still missing the point!

133 overs is agreeably enough time and if you bat 120 overs you do deserve a draw.

However if you have more than enough runs which they did quite easily, you declare earlier and give yourself more time to win the game?

That way even if a team bats very well which they did you still win because you gave yourself even more time

It’s a straightforward obvious point and the fact that they had them 9 wickets down and over 200 runs short at the end of the game, clearly showed they declared too late, the facts show that it’s nonsense to suggest anything else.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
You still missing the point!

133 overs is agreeably enough time and if you bat 120 overs you do deserve a draw.

However if you have more than enough runs which they did quite easily, you declare earlier and give yourself more time to win the game?

That way even if a team bats very well which they did you still win because you gave yourself even more time

It’s a straightforward obvious point and the fact that they had them 9 wickets down and over 200 runs short at the end of the game, clearly showed they declared too late, the facts show that it’s nonsense to suggest anything else.
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You're banging your head against a brick wall.
 
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