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Competing to be the NE top dogs

But as you'd expect that skunk that is never off here hasn't given a balanced response either.

Trippier is 35
Schar is 33
Burn is 33

They are all regulars and are aging, which supports the original point. Whilst Burn is a solid defender, I think most would agree they're surprised he's getting caps for England. In addition, Trippier is no longer a regular and probably never really was.

Add Krafth at 31 and the average age of their defence is 28 including Hall, Livramento, Botman and Thiaw, assuming the ages you've stated are accurate.

I think he's a solid defender, what he perhaps lacks in pace he makes up for it by using his strength, height and general football IQ. Bould was similar, it was rare he was left one on one with a defender as he was always aware of the risks and could anticipate things allowing him to respond quickly and be proactive.

So they have a blend of youth and experience? Isn’t that what we have and our recruitment team is being lauded for?

I f***ing hate them with a passion but there’s enough to be having a pop at them for without having to invent things.
 

This sort of thing is what that lot up the road love and revel in. I am not bothered at all about it. We have enough to do and think about. Why didnt anyone tell me that Liverpool House has closed? Where do I get my club out now?
 
I’ve been holding off on saying this, because it’s Sunderland and we all know how quickly things can change, but without getting too far ahead of ourselves, I genuinely think we have an opportunity to flip a script that may have been easy to accept just a short while ago. When the mags got taken over by the Saudis and became 'the richest club in the werrrld', I remember the chat on here at the time and I felt the same. Loads of concern that we would be left behind forever, we were in League One so it wasn’t hard to feel like it. I remember posts like, 'that’s it, we’ll never be able to compete with them again', and, 'all the top young players in the area will be sucked up by their academy now'. I would love to look back at that thread if can find it.

Yet here we are, and it feels like we’re on the cusp of building something sustainable and potentially long-term. A proper identity, signing young, hungry players who want to prove themselves, who clearly get the club and the city. Players with character, not just ability, and importantly, we’re giving youth a chance. There’s a pathway here, which you can see from afar. From the outside, the mags are starting to look like a bit of a soulless machine, all cash, no connection. There’s a growing respect for how we’re doing things from fans outside the region who are noticing it, which I witness firsthand as an exile. If you’re a talented young player coming through in the North East right now, and someone asked which academy you’d rather be in, where would you point them?

We’re on the rise, doing it properly, and if we keep going like this, all those fears will be long gone or potentially even reversed. It's crazy to think back to this time and look at what KLD and the team have done in such a short space of time when at one point all felt lost.

Let's stick it right up them. HWTL.
Sounds like something @alunb would say
 
Definitely too early for this kind of talk, but looking at their team from Wednesday night, I'm not sure their defence is good enough - Pope is not great, Trippier must be past his best now, and I'm not sure about Botman and Burn.

However from an attacking (or should that be offensive these days?) perspective they do have a lot of talent.
 
Definitely too early for this kind of talk, but looking at their team from Wednesday night, I'm not sure their defence is good enough - Pope is not great, Trippier must be past his best now, and I'm not sure about Botman and Burn.

However from an attacking (or should that be offensive these days?) perspective they do have a lot of talent.
Their defensive record is pretty good
 
I’ve been holding off on saying this, because it’s Sunderland and we all know how quickly things can change, but without getting too far ahead of ourselves, I genuinely think we have an opportunity to flip a script that may have been easy to accept just a short while ago. When the mags got taken over by the Saudis and became 'the richest club in the werrrld', I remember the chat on here at the time and I felt the same. Loads of concern that we would be left behind forever, we were in League One so it wasn’t hard to feel like it. I remember posts like, 'that’s it, we’ll never be able to compete with them again', and, 'all the top young players in the area will be sucked up by their academy now'. I would love to look back at that thread if can find it.

Yet here we are, and it feels like we’re on the cusp of building something sustainable and potentially long-term. A proper identity, signing young, hungry players who want to prove themselves, who clearly get the club and the city. Players with character, not just ability, and importantly, we’re giving youth a chance. There’s a pathway here, which you can see from afar. From the outside, the mags are starting to look like a bit of a soulless machine, all cash, no connection. There’s a growing respect for how we’re doing things from fans outside the region who are noticing it, which I witness firsthand as an exile. If you’re a talented young player coming through in the North East right now, and someone asked which academy you’d rather be in, where would you point them?

We’re on the rise, doing it properly, and if we keep going like this, all those fears will be long gone or potentially even reversed. It's crazy to think back to this time and look at what KLD and the team have done in such a short space of time when at one point all felt lost.

Let's stick it right up them. HWTL.
We will beat them in December
 
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