Collingwood

[Icarebecauseyoudo]

Collingwood has never been in the frame. The members at Durham were assuming that Benkenstein was the choice and it was a formality.

Why shouldn't he be in the frame ?

Tbh benks shot himself in the foot years ago, giving up the captaincy prematurely

Not the best career move if you want to be head coach IMHO

 

[Harry Lime]

"I think upto the the middle of last season Benks was a cert to take over from Geoff Cook when he goes, but not now. The way Colly transformed the fortunes of the team (and Cooks prospects of staying in the job a bit longer) surprised everyone, especially the hierarchy at Durham. If Colly goes on to lead the team to a trophy or even to a couple of respectable finishes in the CC, it will enhance his prospects of landing the top job even more ."


I posted the above on the 12th March this year, and it's looking more likely all the time.

 

[wayne entwhistle no9]

"I think upto the the middle of last season Benks was a cert to take over from Geoff Cook when he goes, but not now. The way Colly transformed the fortunes of the team (and Cooks prospects of staying in the job a bit longer) surprised everyone, especially the hierarchy at Durham. If Colly goes on to lead the team to a trophy or even to a couple of respectable finishes in the CC, it will enhance his prospects of landing the top job even more ."


I posted the above on the 12th March this year, and it's looking more likely all the time.

Looks like you have been shown to be spot on Harry.
I think the die hard members who attend most matches will be more behind Benks as they have watched him turn around Durhams fortunes over the past 9 seasons more than anyone.
Colly will have plenty of support by the way he has turned round the clubs fortunes with his outstanding leadership over the past 12 months.
I don't know who will be making the decision as there is now a vacuum at the top at Durham but it will probably be the one who is best equipped to deal with a shoestring budget.

 

[Icarebecauseyoudo]

Looks like you have been shown to be spot on Harry.
I think the die hard members who attend most matches will be more behind Benks as they have watched him turn around Durhams fortunes over the past 9 seasons more than anyone.
Colly will have plenty of support by the way he has turned round the clubs fortunes with his outstanding leadership over the past 12 months.
I don't know who will be making the decision as there is now a vacuum at the top at Durham but it will probably be the one who is best equipped to deal with a shoestring budget.

The appointment would look a no brainer to me, even if colly continues to play

I can't believe all the members think benks should get the job. At this point you have to go with the person delivering current success to the club

I suppose we are talking this way as cook won't be back?

 

[wayne entwhistle no9]

The appointment would look a no brainer to me, even if colly continues to play

I can't believe all the members think benks should get the job. At this point you have to go with the person delivering current success to the club

I suppose we are talking this way as cook won't be back?

It looks like one or two at the club don't think he will be back, surely that is what all this is about.
Over the past couple of seasons i have not got across to the Riverside that often, but unless things have changed Benks is by far the most respected player Durham have by the die hard members.

 

[Icarebecauseyoudo]

It looks like one or two at the club don't think he will be back, surely that is what all this is about.
Over the past couple of seasons i have not got across to the Riverside that often, but unless things have changed Benks is by far the most respected player Durham have by the die hard members.

That's bound to be the case but it doesn't necessarily make him the best man for this job

 

[wayne entwhistle no9]

That's bound to be the case but it doesn't necessarily make him the best man for this job

I never said it was. It is you who has claimed that Colly to get the job is a no brainer, all i have done is suggest Benks is being frozen out on the Durham finance thread a few days ago by reading what he said in his own column in the Echo and have agreed with the Colonel on this thread.

 

[wackyjacky]

I'm not equipped as most to comment on this topic as I don't get down as much as I like but have been a member for 20+ years so I'm not just a 'Johnny come lately' either.

To me, Colly has done superb over the last 12 months in his leadership but that in no way puts him ahead of Benks who was superb over a far greater period and still contributing now to the good of the club.
Should either of them take Cook's job I can see Colly merely using it as a stepping stone to something bigger elsewhere whereas I could see Benks putting his heart & soul into it to benefit Durham. That to me is the difference.

As far as Durham is concerned I believe Benks has the future interests of the club at heart whereas Colly has the future interests of Paul Collingwood more at heart. When you have two good candidates for the position I know which one I'd go for.

Just my IMO that's all.

 

[Mackem DJ]

I'm not equipped as most to comment on this topic as I don't get down as much as I like but have been a member for 20+ years so I'm not just a 'Johnny come lately' either.

To me, Colly has done superb over the last 12 months in his leadership but that in no way puts him ahead of Benks who was superb over a far greater period and still contributing now to the good of the club.
Should either of them take Cook's job I can see Colly merely using it as a stepping stone to something bigger elsewhere whereas I could see Benks putting his heart & soul into it to benefit Durham. That to me is the difference.

As far as Durham is concerned I believe Benks has the future interests of the club at heart whereas Colly has the future interests of Paul Collingwood more at heart. When you have two good candidates for the position I know which one I'd go for.

Just my IMO that's all.

I can 2nd every part of that post.

 

[Parkside]

I'd sincerely hope that both Benks and Colly have long term futures at the club and there's no reason why they can't. In the present situation i can understand that it might appear that Benks has been frozen out . Colly has had to stand in as T20 capt. and naturally he wants to do it his way-that has to be accepted but that's only an interim measure. Certainly Geoff Cook should now step aside after a serious health scare but be retained solely in an advisory role. I see no reason there can't be 2 head coaches-one for the one day format and other for the 4 day format-it's works with the the captaincy so why can't it work with the coaching? Ironically I'd go for Benks as 4 day coach and Colly for 1 day coach as that was their stronger talents as players.

 

[Harry Lime]

It wouldn't surprise me to see Benks join his family in South Africa sooner rather than later now, and there's a good chance he won't come back.

 

[Parkside]

It wouldn't surprise me to see Benks join his family in South Africa sooner rather than later now, and there's a good chance he won't come back.

I thought Benks and his family were settled in Durham and his children are at school there.

 

[Harry Lime]

I thought Benks and his family were settled in Durham and his children are at school there.

His family went back to SA earlier in the season.

 

[Parkside]

His family went back to SA earlier in the season.

Thanks for that -that does look a bit ominous.

 

[The Colonel]

Thanks for that -that does look a bit ominous.

There was a family reason given for why they went back though and the house in Durham is now rented out. However I get a distinctly bad vibe about all of this and although Benks has 1 year left on his contract it'll be interesting too see how this one plays out.

The rumour is that DCCC has to reduce their wage bill dramatically next season which could see them going from 19 professionals to as few as 10 or 11. TBH I didnt think a professional club was allowed to only contract 10 players but thats what I was told.

I think next season could be really turbulent.

 

[Twisted]

There was a family reason given for why they went back though and the house in Durham is now rented out. However I get a distinctly bad vibe about all of this and although Benks has 1 year left on his contract it'll be interesting too see how this one plays out.

The rumour is that DCCC has to reduce their wage bill dramatically next season which could see them going from 19 professionals to as few as 10 or 11. TBH I didnt think a professional club was allowed to only contract 10 players but thats what I was told.

I think next season could be really turbulent.

tbf for a long while our squd has looked bloated - albeit with distinctly average players and more and more our back up players have been academy lads so it may not be all that different to how things are now, just with the likes of breesy an richardson etc not kept on sadly.

as much as i love collingwood i agree with all this;

To me, Colly has done superb over the last 12 months in his leadership but that in no way puts him ahead of Benks who was superb over a far greater period and still contributing now to the good of the club.
Should either of them take Cook's job I can see Colly merely using it as a stepping stone to something bigger elsewhere whereas I could see Benks putting his heart & soul into it to benefit Durham. That to me is the difference.

As far as Durham is concerned I believe Benks has the future interests of the club at heart whereas Colly has the future interests of Paul Collingwood more at heart. When you have two good candidates for the position I know which one I'd go for.

 

[The Colonel]

I'm not equipped as most to comment on this topic as I don't get down as much as I like but have been a member for 20+ years so I'm not just a 'Johnny come lately' either.

To me, Colly has done superb over the last 12 months in his leadership but that in no way puts him ahead of Benks who was superb over a far greater period and still contributing now to the good of the club.
Should either of them take Cook's job I can see Colly merely using it as a stepping stone to something bigger elsewhere whereas I could see Benks putting his heart & soul into it to benefit Durham. That to me is the difference.

As far as Durham is concerned I believe Benks has the future interests of the club at heart whereas Colly has the future interests of Paul Collingwood more at heart. When you have two good candidates for the position I know which one I'd go for.

Just my IMO that's all.

I wouldnt disagree with a word of that.

 

[brandon]

There was a family reason given for why they went back though and the house in Durham is now rented out. However I get a distinctly bad vibe about all of this and although Benks has 1 year left on his contract it'll be interesting too see how this one plays out.

The rumour is that DCCC has to reduce their wage bill dramatically next season which could see them going from 19 professionals to as few as 10 or 11. TBH I didnt think a professional club was allowed to only contract 10 players but thats what I was told.

I think next season could be really turbulent.

That's more than a rumour mate. I have heard if from a player myself. Interestingly, there are (iirc) three players in the squad for Derbyshire who were mentioned as being 'under threat'.

Next seasons squad could be very different.

 

[Twisted]

That's more than a rumour mate. I have heard if from a player myself. Interestingly, there are (iirc) three players in the squad for Derbyshire who were mentioned as being 'under threat'.

Next seasons squad could be very different.

smith, muchall, richardson?

assuming breese & thorp will retire on top of them.

His family went back to SA earlier in the season.

iirc his mother or father in law is seriously ill?

 

[Icarebecauseyoudo]

I'm not equipped as most to comment on this topic as I don't get down as much as I like but have been a member for 20+ years so I'm not just a 'Johnny come lately' either.

To me, Colly has done superb over the last 12 months in his leadership but that in no way puts him ahead of Benks who was superb over a far greater period and still contributing now to the good of the club.
Should either of them take Cook's job I can see Colly merely using it as a stepping stone to something bigger elsewhere whereas I could see Benks putting his heart & soul into it to benefit Durham. That to me is the difference.

As far as Durham is concerned I believe Benks has the future interests of the club at heart whereas Colly has the future interests of Paul Collingwood more at heart. When you have two good candidates for the position I know which one I'd go for.

Just my IMO that's all.

Where's the evidence for this? If successful Benks would be just as likely to move on to better things as Colly