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Ched Evans...

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The Muffin Man said:
According to the trial she was asked if he could join in and said he could. Its not about being Lad enough, its just what young uns do and have done for many years......University halls of residence are some of the worse, every fucker where I was seemed to have shagged everyone else and most of these things happened when they were pissed up after nights out.
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He said she said that yes.

Based on your anecdote there, you’re more or less saying rape doesn’t exist unless it’s a man in a Mack down an alley. If they’re pissed, they’re consenting seems to be the mantra here?
 
The Muffin Man said:
According to the trial she was asked if he could join in and said he could. Its not about being Lad enough, its just what young uns do and have done for many years......University halls of residence are some of the worse, every fucker where I was seemed to have shagged everyone else and most of these things happened when they were pissed up after nights out.
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She also specifically asked him to go down on her. You can see why he thought it was okay to join in
 
The Sheepfolds End said:
He said she said that yes.

Based on your anecdote there, you’re more or less saying rape doesn’t exist unless it’s a man in a Mack down an alley. If they’re pissed, they’re consenting seems to be the mantra here?
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She, by her own admission, did the same thing a fortnight later.

If she was so horrified by her experience you'd think she'd get off the drink and keep her pants on for a while ....

.... just saying.
 
The Sheepfolds End said:
He said she said that yes.

Based on your anecdote there, you’re more or less saying rape doesn’t exist unless it’s a man in a Mack down an alley. If they’re pissed, they’re consenting seems to be the mantra here?
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I dont think we are actually in for Mr Evans. However, are you some self appointed moralist on here? Give it up man its tedious.
 
Reiver said:
She, by her own admission, did the same thing a fortnight later.

If she was so horrified by her experience you'd think she'd get off the drink and keep her pants on for a while ....

.... just saying.
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None of that means what Evans did was either right, moral or strictly legal.
 
Reiver said:
IIRC Ian Porterfield had 2 or 3 wives, half a dozen kids and the odd affair ...

... but people weren't so sanctimonious and self righteous in those days.

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Not really the same as pretending you've lost your keycard to break into someone's room and then shagging them while they're fall over pissed like.

But it's alright because she was a bit of a goer apparently.
 
Northumberland Rocks said:
I dont think we are actually in for Mr Evans. However, are you some self appointed moralist on here? Give it up man its tedious.
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Haven’t appointed myself anything. Offering my own opinion and commenting on a hypothetical signing after it was mentioned in the press. As happens on forums. I’m glad we seemingly aren’t in for him.

Being labelled tedious by a complete sycophant is quite the compliment

dcl0sc said:
For the way he treated his wife!
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Oh aye, forgot about that. He had the attack of conscience when he remembered her and legged it out the fire escape didn’t he!
 
Far Tibetan Mountain said:
Not really the same as pretending you've lost your keycard to break into someone's room and then shagging them while they're fall over pissed like.

But it's alright because she was a bit of a goer apparently.
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That wasn't my point, in fact it was nothing like my point.
 
Oh dont worry, we will not sign him due to some of the so called fans on here having a good moan at Donald on twitter.
 
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