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Ched Evans...

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JumpingAnaconda said:
There were a lot of people on this forum that absolutely condemned Evans and anybody that had doubts about the case. I was one of those that said over and over again that the case was an outrageous and obvious miscarriage of justice, and I personally took a lot of grief. When he was eventually absolved of any wrongdoing and found innocent in the appeal, a number on here could not swallow their pride and admit they were wrong.

I am involved in active campaigns to address sexual abuse and trafficking and I am utterly opposed to it and any form of sex without consent. However, I also believe you have to have a legal system that is robust and which leaves no reasonable doubt when convicting people. When the court finds someone has been convicted of something they have been subsequently demonstrated to not have done, and are thus innocent, you have to treat them as innocent. It is wrong to make them a pariah primarily because a few people ranted about how there was absolutely no way he was innocent, and then were shown to be wrong, or because of resentment towards something the court says he did not do.
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So it's not OK to look at his actions and decide you don't think he's a decent person?
 
SYB_DC said:
Pass, but not based on personal view of Evans as a person or the outcome of his case. Public perception matters, and there have already been too many allegations of creepery around the club in recent years (and even recent days), some of which have unfortunately been proven true. Evans may or may not deserve the chance to continue his career as a footballer at another club, but regardless of where one comes down on that question it shouldn't be SAFC giving him the next step.
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Agree with this though despite the verdict.
 
Nelson! said:
Yep. He's bang average. Putting morality aside to sign Suarez is one thing, Ched f***ing Evans?

Anyone called Ched is definitely a wrong 'un.
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You either have morality or you don't, who it is and the level of their ability wouldn't come Into it if you have morals surely?l
 
People more concerned with defending his character than what a horrible,horrible signing he would be.

Also, he may have been acquitted but he was still a vile, abhorrent human being that night...
 
He's morally a shithouse. Unfaithful to his wife. Terrible thing to do to her.

So too Bobby Moore, Bobby Robson, Rooney, Ashley Cole, David Beckham and countless other footballers.

Like Evans, none of them broke the law.

Unlike the likes of Mickey Quinn, George Best, Tony Adams and countless other footballers.

If you are looking for morals I'd stop following football.

Evans has a decent record. He's better than Will Grigg.
 
Morny said:
He's a perfectly normal lad.

Haven't we all tricked a hotel receptionist into giving us our mates room key, then let ourselves into that room, then took it upon ourselves to shag the lass he took back whilst our brother and a mate watched from the window, then sneak out of the fire escape when finished.

I mean, honestly, what down-to-earth, good honest lad hasn't done something like that.
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Apparently you're a liar if you haven't ;)
 
Kid Galahad said:
You either have morality or you don't, who it is and the level of their ability wouldn't come Into it if you have morals surely?l
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I wouldn't want anyone who'd acted the way he has. I'm saying others seem to be pretty quick to abandon any sort of moral decency for a no mark.
 
JumpingAnaconda said:
There were a lot of people on this forum that absolutely condemned Evans and anybody that had doubts about the case. I was one of those that said over and over again that the case was an outrageous and obvious miscarriage of justice, and I personally took a lot of grief. When he was eventually absolved of any wrongdoing and found innocent in the appeal, a number on here could not swallow their pride and admit they were wrong.

I am involved in active campaigns to address sexual abuse and trafficking and I am utterly opposed to it and any form of sex without consent. However, I also believe you have to have a legal system that is robust and which leaves no reasonable doubt when convicting people. When the court finds someone has been convicted of something they have been subsequently demonstrated to not have done, and are thus innocent, you have to treat them as innocent. It is wrong to make them a pariah primarily because a few people ranted about how there was absolutely no way he was innocent, and then were shown to be wrong, or because of resentment towards something the court says he did not do.
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I take your points, but - to be accurate - he wasn't found innocent, he was found not guilty. In other words the jury weren't 100% sure he was guilty. That's not the same as saying he was innocent.
 
Disco_Pants93 said:
the fuck are you on about?? :lol::lol::lol: I presume you already handed money over when watching AJ on the wing not knowing he was innocent or guilty. Now we're on about signing someone PROVEN innocent and you won't go back? :lol:
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You don't prove someone innocent. He was not guilty beyond reasonable doubt, which is completely different.

I'm not suggesting he was/is guilty by the way.
 
The Sheepfolds End said:
No they won’t. But they might want to consider whether there are others of a similar mindset, how many female supporters and season ticket holders we have who wouldn’t like this at all, our recent history of controversy with sexual assault cases, the masses of negative PR we’ve had in recent years and that we are a club that allegedly prides itself on being community orientated.

Why we would risk anything on a fairly abhorrent no mark of a footballer is beyond me. Why people would welcome us signing him let alone defend him is also beyond me but there ya go
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I honestly believe it’s all bollocks and tomorrow everyone will be laughing at the link.

If, however, it’s true and we sign the lad - the new owners would have fucked up big style and they will lose a bit of good will.
 
Nelson! said:
Being a loathsome human being?

Why does he have to be a criminal for people not to want him at the club?
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You speak like you know him? :rolleyes: Everyone has done things they're not proud of, are you as pure as the driven snow?

He has had his conviction quashed, thus making him an innocent man!

If his missus can forgive him, then surely some precious SAFC fans can find it in their hearts to let the lad come to the club and just play football... :rolleyes:

Player bucks lass, lass cries rape, player gets found guilty, then player gets found NOT guilty, player still gets punished... FFS this country man!
 
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