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Bid rejected for Clarke


hardtackle said:
Come on! That is a silly comment. Almiron is a proven PL player and a regular international. Clark is neither of those things and has failed to breakthrough at PL level before. The only thing wher Clark is ahead of Almiron is age.

The reality is that a lot of fans overvalue their players based on random other transfers as points of comparison and/or he notion that all the PL clubs are all so rich that they love chucking wedges of cash at other clubs.

Burnley are probably low balling to an extent but not vastly so. I would be very surprised if Sunderland got any offer of more than £15m for Clark and it will probably be less. The club then have to decide if that is sufficient to allow him to leave.

There are people on here who think he is worth £25m + but they will be proven wrong because no-one will bid anything like that amount.
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Then by the sheer act of rejecting anything less than £25m that would set his worth at £25m....as he would be worth that to us.
 
Balti Man said:
Then we simply decline. Pointless selling for less than that, considering he is a key player and we owe Spurs a hefty slice of any profit. Unless Jack wants to leave (highly doubtful) or we get a truly daft offer, no reason to even entertain it.
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True the club of course can decline should they choose. As you suggest that of course becomes harder if the player starts stamping his feet for a move (I am not saying Clark will do that as I have no idea about his goals, motivation etc)

I doubt any Spurs clause makes much difference since people cant agree what you actually paid Spurs for him so you cant work out what the profit would be even if it is accurate that Spurs have a big sell on clause.
 
SAFC11 said:
Because there is a low offer and just being insulting. If he had only a year left on his contract fair enough. But he is a key player, with 3 years left on his contract and the back of a very productive season. With the current transfer climate even 12 mil would be a low offer
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SAFC11 said:
It's not taking it personally or getting emotional about it. It's simply a pointless bid that the club will instantly dismiss, which is better for us as fans. If anything It's going to stop the club negotiating a deal and just say come back with x or don't bother
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Designed to unsettle him with agent chatter as many times as possible, with the agent permanently in his ear agitating for the move of course. The way they look at it.
 
hardtackle said:
Come on! That is a silly comment. Almiron is a proven PL player and a regular international. Clark is neither of those things and has failed to breakthrough at PL level before. The only thing wher Clark is ahead of Almiron is age.

The reality is that a lot of fans overvalue their players based on random other transfers as points of comparison and/or he notion that all the PL clubs are all so rich that they love chucking wedges of cash at other clubs.

Burnley are probably low balling to an extent but not vastly so. I would be very surprised if Sunderland got any offer of more than £15m for Clark and it will probably be less. The club then have to decide if that is sufficient to allow him to leave.

There are people on here who think he is worth £25m + but they will be proven wrong because no-one will bid anything like that amount.
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Almiron plays for Paraguay, but easier to get a game for them than England wouldn’t you say?
 
Shibby Safc said:
Then by the sheer act of rejecting anything less than £25m that would set his worth at £25m....as he would be worth that to us.
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True I suppose there is the value of something to you (in this case the club not you personally) and then there is the value to the market and those two things don't have to align. It depends on the desire to sell. But of course unless the club have no desire to sell (which does not see to fit "the model") that have to align to what the market is willing to pay.

I can say my house is worth £5m to me but not if I want to move house.
Rokeroar said:
Almiron plays for Paraguay, but easier to get a game for them than England wouldn’t you say?
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Of course it was to get into Paraguays team than Englands, but I doubt Clark (if eligible) would get into Paraguays team either.
 
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hardtackle said:
True I suppose there is the value of something to you (in this case the club not you personally) and then there is the value to the market and those two things don't have to align. It depends on the desire to sell. But of course unless the club have no desire to sell (which does not see to fit "the model") that have to align to what the market is willing to pay.

I can say my house is worth £5m to me but not if I want to move house.

Of course it was to get into Paraguays team than Englands, but I doubt Clark (if eligible) would get into Paraguays team either.
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Course he would, he’d get Almiron’s place😂
 
hardtackle said:
Come on! That is a silly comment. Almiron is a proven PL player and a regular international. Clark is neither of those things and has failed to breakthrough at PL level before. The only thing wher Clark is ahead of Almiron is age.

The reality is that a lot of fans overvalue their players based on random other transfers as points of comparison and/or he notion that all the PL clubs are all so rich that they love chucking wedges of cash at other clubs.

Burnley are probably low balling to an extent but not vastly so. I would be very surprised if Sunderland got any offer of more than £15m for Clark and it will probably be less. The club then have to decide if that is sufficient to allow him to leave.

There are people on here who think he is worth £25m + but they will be proven wrong because no-one will bid anything like that amount.
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We have to value him that highly for our own sake and the point shouldn't be ignored that Burnley want him for their PL campaign and therefore think he's a PL standard player, in which case that comes with a hefty price tag.
 
Blyth said:
I’m mean it’s great to say we’re over valuing Clarke, then go onto over value Almiron. Had a decent season this season but been bang average for years.
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I have not placed an actual valuation Almiron have I?

I am just pointing out the valuation a lot of people here have on Clark is not based on reality.

It is pretty ludicrous to say that Clark is worth more than Almiron and no expert or neutral fan would think this. While it is not perfect just look at both players on Transfermarkt for example (where funnily enough Jack Clark is valued at €12m - which is more or less what Burnley have apparently bid for him)
 
Church said:
We have to value him that highly for our own sake and the point shouldn't be ignored that Burnley want him for their PL campaign and therefore think he's a PL standard player, in which case that comes with a hefty price tag.
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He is Premier league prospect not necessarily a Premier league player so the bids would reflect that.
 
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