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Best English Born Batsman

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Mr Redknapp

Mr Redknapp

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of the modern era ?

The English have produced some of the best batsman from the birth of the game. WG Grace, Sir Jack Hobbs,Herbert Sutcliffe,Phil Mead, Len Hutton, Wally Hammond (Who could also bowl handy seemers) Ken Barringtonm,Colin Cowdrey and Denis Compton amongst them but it has been a fair while since we have had a batsman of that quality and I am not sure who the best has been. Graham Thorpe is the best English batsman I have seen in my lifetime as he could play any innings depending on the situation.

Gower and Boycott are probably going to get lots of votes? :lol:
 
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Of the last 40 years - Boycott or Gower.

Of the last 20 years - Thorpe or Vaughan.

Of the last 10 years - Cook.
 
I'm going to go for Vaughan. At the top of his game he was utter class.

Only saw Gower in his later years and never saw Boycs mind
 
MarcoGoalo said:
Graham Gooch
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This. He was a monster.

It would be interesting to see who the front line bowlers were that the shortlist faced.

Who had it worse? Gooch and Boycs or Gatting? Or Gower, Tresco and Vaughan? It's one of the reasons I don't think Cook is as good as those lot, simply because he hasn't faced the same level of opposition over the years. Saying that if he carries on with his stats, be hard to argue against him being one of our true greats.
 
90's Stewart (superb average as a keeper / batsmen in a very good era of bowlers)
00's Vaughan
10's Cook

Id be relying on others opinions to make a judgement prior to that.
 
Openers: Boycott, Edrich (John), Trescothick, Vaughan, Cook

Middle Order: Stewart, Hussain, Thorpe, Gower, Pieterson

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Openers: Boycott, Edrich (John), Trescothick, Vaughan, Cook

Middle Order: Stewart, Hussain, Thorpe, Gower, Pieterson
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Oops, just realised the importance of british born.

Replace with Gatting and Botham who had an excellent technique.
 
I can see the reason why people would vote for Cook but does he play against the same quality of attacks around the world as Thorpe and Gooch?
 
I've never bought into the argument that one was 'better' because they faced 'better' attacks. Whose to say Cook wouldn't have thrived against the 80s attacks? Can only bat against what's put in front of you.

Technically, though, I'd have put Bell up there. His stats don't show the career he should have had. Love watching Bell.
 
Mr Redknapp said:
I can see the reason why people would vote for Cook but does he play against the same quality of attacks around the world as Thorpe and Gooch?
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Not from the West Indies no, but he has faced Steyn and co multiple times, McGrath & Warne twice, Murali and Vaas a couple of times, Shoaib Akhtar, Brett Lee, Kumble, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Amir, Ajmal etc. Were the attacks Vaughan faced any better than that, other than the Aussies a couple of more times? I don't think they were.
 
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Not from the West Indies no, but he has faced Steyn and co multiple times, McGrath & Warne twice, Murali and Vaas a couple of times, Shoaib Akhtar, Brett Lee, Kumble, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Amir, Ajmal etc. Were the attacks Vaughan faced any better than that, other than the Aussies a couple of more times? I don't think they were.
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I think Cook faced McGrath and Warne once and failed in a 5-0 loss. The rest were coming towards the end of their careers (if he faced them all). Vaughan destroyed the Aussie attack down under when McGrath, Warne, Lee and Gillespie were in their prime.
 
Boycott.

never been bettered at keeping his wicket, but selfish, slow, and boring as owt. tailor made for test cricket.;-)
 
Dreamboat said:
Not from the West Indies no, but he has faced Steyn and co multiple times, McGrath & Warne twice, Murali and Vaas a couple of times, Shoaib Akhtar, Brett Lee, Kumble, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Amir, Ajmal etc. Were the attacks Vaughan faced any better than that, other than the Aussies a couple of more times? I don't think they were.
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Fair points but Vaughan was on the slide before the 2005 Ashes series and did not even score many runs in that series.

Cook suffered against Warne and McGrath when he played them. The Aussie attack that last played England was average imo.
 
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