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No mate!
Different direction after Bush International. Either SE to Port Arthur or west to San Antonio.
Was next to a couple of fellas in October time that were coming back from Houston, sure they worked in fire protection or fire risk assessments, was certainly something to do with ‘fire’ in the oil and gas industry.
 
Was next to a couple of fellas in October time that were coming back from Houston, sure they worked in fire protection or fire risk assessments, was certainly something to do with ‘fire’ in the oil and gas industry.
So many O&G projects there. Add to that firms have offices in Houston where they run some aspects of projects from. Exxon do a lot of their Procurement from Houston for example.
Then, in the SE of Texas, you have Port Arthur / Beaumont area. Loads of refinery jobs. It is a pretty dull part of the US but there is so much work.
 
Same here. I recently re-qualified for Siver and have 200,000 Avios in the bank so over the next year I will just burn those on flights and then use EasyJet, Emirates or whoever is the cheapest. I've been a loyal BA customer for over 20 years, Silver for most of them, but they can go screw themselves over this.

Their PR around this is embarrassing. " to give you more opportunities to unlock rewards" and "simplifying the way we reward your loyalty". They are dropping the Executive name yet making the Club more exclusive for business travellers who don't pay for their own tickets.
Nail on Head

oh and the gaslighting is major like. ''we are doing this for your sake because we care''. my company does the same internally...
 
I’m fancying somewhere different next year. America probably. Went to SF, LA and LV last year. Thinking of Hawaii on the itinerary
 
Ive seen quite a few who are for the change, nearly all are business flyers who dont pay for their flights, and they complain that the lounges are ‘too full of holiday makers’.

Its always been a worry that travel would soon become only for the wealthy as they try to fit into a more environmental thinking industry, this is a major move toward that.

As far as BA are concerned, ill use up my avios and avail myself of all the perks until my status ends, then ill do what they want, leave the flying with them to company people paying full price, and chase the cheapest flights regardless
Not sure why the moaning about lounges. In my experience, aside from Newcastle Aspire, the lounge access has never been an issue. The Heathrow lounges, whilst always busy, I have never not gotten a seat which is all you want.
Perhaps I am missing something obvious but I don’t see the benefit to BA. Why do this?
 
With the BA changes, is there actually easier ways to unlock rewards?

Like if I continue to use the BA AMEX I assume that won't go towards Tier Points?
 
With the BA changes, is there actually easier ways to unlock rewards?

Like if I continue to use the BA AMEX I assume that won't go towards Tier Points?

No, I would think that would go to Avios.

However, they do say "In 2025, British Airways American Express® Premium Plus Cardmembers will be able to earn up to 2,500 Tier Points by spending on their card. More details of this offer will be announced closer to the launch date"


Under the current system there was a clear difference between Tier Points and Avios. Now that they will both be purely revenue aren't they now similar which is going to lead to more confusion. The only difference is that you can't spend TPs and Avios don't count towards starus.
 
Not sure why the moaning about lounges. In my experience, aside from Newcastle Aspire, the lounge access has never been an issue. The Heathrow lounges, whilst always busy, I have never not gotten a seat which is all you want.
Perhaps I am missing something obvious but I don’t see the benefit to BA. Why do this?
Sorry i dont know what you mean. Why did BA do this or why have status?
 
Not sure why the moaning about lounges. In my experience, aside from Newcastle Aspire, the lounge access has never been an issue. The Heathrow lounges, whilst always busy, I have never not gotten a seat which is all you want.
Perhaps I am missing something obvious but I don’t see the benefit to BA. Why do this?

Presumably the one reason a business does anything - to make more money or to cut costs.

Up to now, Silver has been the sweet spot of the BAEC. Bronze doesn't get you much and Gold takes a lot of effort but Silver comes with a lot of good benefits. From BA's perspective there are a lot of Silver members (including me) who aren't that profitable for them. Once you understood how TPs worked getting Silver was relatively easy too and not that much money.

The risk is that flyers like me decide to ditch BA and just use EasyJet or someone else rather than being happy to lose status.
 
Presumably the one reason a business does anything - to make more money or to cut costs.

Up to now, Silver has been the sweet spot of the BAEC. Bronze doesn't get you much and Gold takes a lot of effort but Silver comes with a lot of good benefits. From BA's perspective there are a lot of Silver members (including me) who aren't that profitable for them. Once you understood how TPs worked getting Silver was relatively easy too and not that much money.

The risk is that flyers like me decide to ditch BA and just use EasyJet or someone else rather than being happy to lose status.

With work I've got to do quite a few mainland Europe flights which require either travelling via Amsterdam or Heathrow. Always try to push for the latter to get the BA rewards but if this move is going to make it much more difficult, I'll maybe just opt for KLM
 
Sorry i dont know what you mean. Why did BA do this or why have status?
Why make this change. It just seems, to me anyway, likely to alienate the customer.
Presumably the one reason a business does anything - to make more money or to cut costs.

Up to now, Silver has been the sweet spot of the BAEC. Bronze doesn't get you much and Gold takes a lot of effort but Silver comes with a lot of good benefits. From BA's perspective there are a lot of Silver members (including me) who aren't that profitable for them. Once you understood how TPs worked getting Silver was relatively easy too and not that much money.

The risk is that flyers like me decide to ditch BA and just use EasyJet or someone else rather than being happy to lose status.
I got Gold simply because, flying BA to America was sensible. Many flights, thus a connecting delay, unlikely to have a major impact.
If I was paying myself I would be unlikely to pay extra if attaining benefits was much more difficult / almost impossible. Just seems like change that alienates customers and doesn’t offer any obvious benefit to BA other than limiting customers in the lounges. Will that save them that much??
 
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Why make this change. It just seems, to me anyway, likely to alienate the customer.

I got Gold simply because, flying BA to America was sensible. Many flights, thus a connecting delay, unlikely to have a major impact.
If I was paying myself I would be unlikely to pay extra if attaining benefits was much more difficult / almost impossible. Just seems like change that alienates customers and doesn’t offer any obvious benefit to BA other than limiting customers in the lounges. Will that save them that much??
got ya. sorry the Guinness took its toll last night
Why make this change. It just seems, to me anyway, likely to alienate the customer.

I got Gold simply because, flying BA to America was sensible. Many flights, thus a connecting delay, unlikely to have a major impact.
If I was paying myself I would be unlikely to pay extra if attaining benefits was much more difficult / almost impossible. Just seems like change that alienates customers and doesn’t offer any obvious benefit to BA other than limiting customers in the lounges. Will that save them that much??
its a horrific decision and one which will turn me from a traveler who spent the extra to fly BA into a staunch anti BA flyer.

There's a narrative that the lounges are over subscribed, that the priority boarding is 75% of the aircraft and its all full of lager swilling backpackers and tier point runners, which is bollocks.

BA WILL lose customers over it and I for one hope they feel that. Bollocks to them
 
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got ya. sorry the Guinness took its toll last night

its a horrific decision and one which will turn me from a traveler who spent the extra to fly BA into a staunch anti BA flyer.

There's a narrative that the lounges are over subscribed, that the priority boarding is 75% of the aircraft and its all full of lager swilling backpackers and tier point runners, which is bollocks.

BA WILL lose customers over it and I for one hope they feel that. Bollocks to them

They've gone very poor in the last 10 years and I've had better service from what many would class as "Budget Airlines"

I don't know what the cause of it is, the stewards all seem to be significantly older when compared to other airlines and have a sense of entitlement that you don't see at other airlines. Don't know what BA is like to work for or their pension but there definitely seems to be a significantly older workforce than compared to others.

This latest situation reminds me of when BA got rid of the free food/snacks on domestic flights about 7 year back or so. Then tried to spin it as a positive as we would now be able to purchase a selection of food from M&S
 
got ya. sorry the Guinness took its toll last night

its a horrific decision and one which will turn me from a traveler who spent the extra to fly BA into a staunch anti BA flyer.

There's a narrative that the lounges are over subscribed, that the priority boarding is 75% of the aircraft and its all full of lager swilling backpackers and tier point runners, which is bollocks.

BA WILL lose customers over it and I for one hope they feel that. Bollocks to them
Priority boarding bit I get. Not that boarding first, last or otherwise ever bothers me.
Perhaps the lounge thing is other airports. Never had an issue at Heathrow. The South lounge (think that is right. The one that is standalone) is usually very busy. Other end I have never had an issue. Same in Houston and Japan.
Perhaps there are more issues on other routes. Either way I don’t think it is a wise move.
No worries on Guinness mate. All been there 😁
Happy New Year.
 
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