Attendance Thread - Stoke City

[Northumberland Rocks]

can they not go to the ticket office and buy them?

A couple of cash and contactless turnstiles sorts this Issue.

It’s a doddle

For you perhaps but not for many.

Fk a lot of people as long as you are happy. Class.

I thought SAFC fans were better than this.

 

[CollingwoodFTM]

Tracker is back down. Attendance seems to be just short of 40k

It’s back

39,678.

 

[vinegar hill]

It’s context. Which you have had no regard to.

You talk all about these three clubs that might better our attendances, and that may be true, but how many of them watched their team relegated with 19 points (02/03), then the next time in the prem watched them relegated with 15 points (05/06)?

How many of them have watched their team go a whole season at home winning one game (05/06)?

2016/17 looks comparatively good compared to the above, when it was pitiful.

How many have seen their team go virtually a whole calendar year without winning a home game (16/17 - 17/18)?

How many have seen their team do back to back relegations (16/17 - 17/18)?

Put all those others you quote through all the shit we’ve endured and four years in league one, then judge them.

The fact so many people still turn out to watch us after doing so little for so many years, and having endured some awful seasons.

For the record, when the mags were relegated in 09 they immediately lost 15k on the gate. That would only have increased had they had a shit season in the Championship and not bounced straight back.

Absolutely spot on.
Also when the Mags got relegated Ashley actually gambled and spent 50 million to get them back up.

 

[dred73]

A couple of cash and contactless turnstiles sorts this Issue.

For you perhaps but not for many.

Fk a lot of people as long as you are happy. Class.

I thought SAFC fans were better than this.

You did not answer the first question.

 

[E Tenebris Lux]

They think

I honestly haven't got a clue. Only been to a few away games this season and have sold out each time but we never seem to travel well to Sunderland, so can't see that many travelling.

500-1000?

They think we are in Scotland

 

[ferryhill mackem]

A couple of cash and contactless turnstiles sorts this Issue.

what issue? the ticket office has been open all week and will be up until kick off tomorrow

 

[Northumberland Rocks]

what issue? the ticket office has been open all week and will be up to kick off tomorrow

I live 45 miles from the ground so you expecting me to take a morning off work and travel nigh on 100 miles so I can buy a ticket for a mate who doesn’t drive? Or face lengthy ques on match day?



He just takes the easy option and doesn’t go.

 

[The Town Hall Clock]

So the most successful clubs in England, the richest club in the world, us and West Ham. Fair enough I agree that group is the best 10 supported clubs in England.

Btw we had bigger crowds in our 4th year in L1 than Man City had in their first.

And in the last full season before the Arabs bought Man City, we had bigger crowds than them, by a few hundred, despite them finishing a few places above us in the Premier League.

 

[ferryhill mackem]

I live 45 miles from the ground so you expecting me to take a morning off work and travel nigh on 100 miles so I can buy a ticket for a mate who doesn’t drive?

He just takes the easy option and doesn’t go.

why would you need to do that when the ticket office is open tomorrow and always has been on matchday?

 

[Buzzers boot boy]

The big clubs certainly would, such as the Manchester and London clubs if they had suddenly found themselves with a couple of relegations. A struggling West Ham team are averaging over 60,000. Their all time record was I believe around 41,000 in the days when the three world cup winners played for them. Is that not remarkable ? The game has changed so much since the Premier League was formed and now even more in the time since the pandemic. Our gates are good but not remarkable as I believe at least another nine clubs - Man Utd, City, Liverpool, Everton, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle and West Ham would draw either similar or much higher crowds. Are not Southend's crowds remarkable for a team who at best can only make the National League play offs. They are drawing the same average as when they were in the second tier in the early nineties. Nowt wrong with our support but hardly remarkable.

Well read my reply

What an absolute pile of shite that is.
The best part of the last decade has been for safc on the pitch utter rubbish.
Terrible to watch and just surviving for a few years and then relegation twice in 2 seasons and taking 4 seasons to get back up to the championship and even that was a struggle.


West Ham would not get anywhere near our numbers if they’d had that to put up with.

Man City before the years of success they’ve had would still get a good decent numbers as proved In hard times but I’d still argue we pull more In than they would.
Man Utd arsenal etc can’t be compared because the fan base is so huge because of the generations of success they’ve had they would’ve know what to do if they finished in the bottom half of the top league never mind league 1.

Mags would smash the place up before they got where we ended up man.
Getting beat off the likes of ( no disrespect) Cheltenham, gillingham. Burton etc for 4/5 years would finish every horse off within the north east area.

Give ya head a shake mate.

 

[Lo Ursem]

Mag

Even the majority of fans from every other club in the country would agree that out support is unbelievable when you consider the last 2 decades. It's only this plum who doesn't. I wouldn't bother arguing with him tbh

I can give you context.
Derby relegated with record low points of 11 averaged 32432. Following season finished 18th in championship and averaged 29,440. When Newcastle were relegated in 08 09 their average was 48,750 and it dropped to 43,388 in the Championship. Not 15,000. We went down in 03 with an average of 39,698 and dropped to 27,119 in the Championship.
Aston Villa were promoted from the Third Division in 1972 with an average gate of 31,952 including three league gates above 45,000. This was their fifth consecutive season outside the top flight and second season in the third tier. Football attendances were a lot lower then and clubs did not have the advantage of having mainly season ticket holders.
As I have said .. our attendances are good. But they must be looked it within the overall popularity of the game. And clubs such as Everton and Arsenal have not sunk so low to give their supporters a chance to prove their loyalty. A winning team in a lower division will attract big crowds. We proved that in the sixties and seventies and did so again in the Third tier.
Mag ? I have watched the lads for nearly sixty years ...

 

[The Town Hall Clock]

I can give you context.
Derby relegated with record low points of 11 averaged 32432. Following season finished 18th in championship and averaged 29,440. When Newcastle were relegated in 08 09 their average was 48,750 and it dropped to 43,388 in the Championship. Not 15,000. We went down in 03 with an average of 39,698 and dropped to 27,119 in the Championship.
Aston Villa were promoted from the Third Division in 1972 with an average gate of 31,952 including three league gates above 45,000. This was their fifth consecutive season outside the top flight and second season in the third tier. Football attendances were a lot lower then and clubs did not have the advantage of having mainly season ticket holders.
As I have said .. our attendances are good. But they must be looked it within the overall popularity of the game. And clubs such as Everton and Arsenal have not sunk so low to give their supporters a chance to prove their loyalty. A winning team in a lower division will attract big crowds. We proved that in the sixties and seventies and did so again in the Third tier.
Mag ? I have watched the lads for nearly sixty years ...

You have been doing a LOT of researching, to find your 'context', ya Filthy, Gravy-Splattered Skunk Pig.

 

[Secret Visage]

I can give you context.
Derby relegated with record low points of 11 averaged 32432. Following season finished 18th in championship and averaged 29,440. When Newcastle were relegated in 08 09 their average was 48,750 and it dropped to 43,388 in the Championship. Not 15,000. We went down in 03 with an average of 39,698 and dropped to 27,119 in the Championship.
Aston Villa were promoted from the Third Division in 1972 with an average gate of 31,952 including three league gates above 45,000. This was their fifth consecutive season outside the top flight and second season in the third tier. Football attendances were a lot lower then and clubs did not have the advantage of having mainly season ticket holders.
As I have said .. our attendances are good. But they must be looked it within the overall popularity of the game. And clubs such as Everton and Arsenal have not sunk so low to give their supporters a chance to prove their loyalty. A winning team in a lower division will attract big crowds. We proved that in the sixties and seventies and did so again in the Third tier.
Mag ? I have watched the lads for nearly sixty years ...

The state of this.

 

[Buzzers boot boy]

I can give you context.
Derby relegated with record low points of 11 averaged 32432. Following season finished 18th in championship and averaged 29,440. When Newcastle were relegated in 08 09 their average was 48,750 and it dropped to 43,388 in the Championship. Not 15,000. We went down in 03 with an average of 39,698 and dropped to 27,119 in the Championship.
Aston Villa were promoted from the Third Division in 1972 with an average gate of 31,952 including three league gates above 45,000. This was their fifth consecutive season outside the top flight and second season in the third tier. Football attendances were a lot lower then and clubs did not have the advantage of having mainly season ticket holders.
As I have said .. our attendances are good. But they must be looked it within the overall popularity of the game. And clubs such as Everton and Arsenal have not sunk so low to give their supporters a chance to prove their loyalty. A winning team in a lower division will attract big crowds. We proved that in the sixties and seventies and did so again in the Third tier.
Mag ? I have watched the lads for nearly sixty years ...

Ya on about Villa the 70s when it was about 20 pence to go to the match Man U crackpot.

Both times the mags were relegated the kept a lot of the players from the premier league team and spent money to strengthen. They went straight back up both times.

They never stunk the league out and got relegated to league 1 and then floundered around in it for 4 seasons.

Our support and numbers are without argument from any normal football fan who attends game’s regular nothing short of superb.

Whichever way u try and dress it up, u are wrong.

 

[Daffy]

I can give you context.
Derby relegated with record low points of 11 averaged 32432. Following season finished 18th in championship and averaged 29,440. When Newcastle were relegated in 08 09 their average was 48,750 and it dropped to 43,388 in the Championship. Not 15,000. We went down in 03 with an average of 39,698 and dropped to 27,119 in the Championship.
Aston Villa were promoted from the Third Division in 1972 with an average gate of 31,952 including three league gates above 45,000. This was their fifth consecutive season outside the top flight and second season in the third tier. Football attendances were a lot lower then and clubs did not have the advantage of having mainly season ticket holders.
As I have said .. our attendances are good. But they must be looked it within the overall popularity of the game. And clubs such as Everton and Arsenal have not sunk so low to give their supporters a chance to prove their loyalty. A winning team in a lower division will attract big crowds. We proved that in the sixties and seventies and did so again in the Third tier.
Mag ? I have watched the lads for nearly sixty years ...

I can give you context.
Derby relegated with record low points of 11 averaged 32432. Following season finished 18th in championship and averaged 29,440. When Newcastle were relegated in 08 09 their average was 48,750 and it dropped to 43,388 in the Championship. Not 15,000. We went down in 03 with an average of 39,698 and dropped to 27,119 in the Championship.
Aston Villa were promoted from the Third Division in 1972 with an average gate of 31,952 including three league gates above 45,000. This was their fifth consecutive season outside the top flight and second season in the third tier. Football attendances were a lot lower then and clubs did not have the advantage of having mainly season ticket holders.
As I have said .. our attendances are good. But they must be looked it within the overall popularity of the game. And clubs such as Everton and Arsenal have not sunk so low to give their supporters a chance to prove their loyalty. A winning team in a lower division will attract big crowds. We proved that in the sixties and seventies and did so again in the Third tier.
Mag ? I have watched the lads for nearly sixty years ...

what a strange character

 

[Sons of The Wear]

It’s context. Which you have had no regard to.

You talk all about these three clubs that might better our attendances, and that may be true, but how many of them watched their team relegated with 19 points (02/03), then the next time in the prem watched them relegated with 15 points (05/06)?

How many of them have watched their team go a whole season at home winning one game (05/06)?

2016/17 looks comparatively good compared to the above, when it was pitiful.

How many have seen their team go virtually a whole calendar year without winning a home game (16/17 - 17/18)?

How many have seen their team do back to back relegations (16/17 - 17/18)?

Put all those others you quote through all the shit we’ve endured and four years in league one, then judge them.

The fact so many people still turn out to watch us after doing so little for so many years, and having endured some awful seasons.

For the record, when the mags were relegated in 09 they immediately lost 15k on the gate. That would only have increased had they had a shit season in the Championship and not bounced straight back.

Well f***ing said. No better fan base in the world.
None of the other clubs mentioned have been anywhere near the level of absolute toxic shite that we’ve endured. Our gates are beyond belief.

The last game under Ardiles at Saudi Arabia FC before Sir John Hall (14, Thornhill Terrace, Sunderland) took over was 14k. FTMURDERERS

what a strange character

What a piece of scum.

 

[joebolton]

The big clubs certainly would, such as the Manchester and London clubs if they had suddenly found themselves with a couple of relegations. A struggling West Ham team are averaging over 60,000. Their all time record was I believe around 41,000 in the days when the three world cup winners played for them. Is that not remarkable ? The game has changed so much since the Premier League was formed and now even more in the time since the pandemic. Our gates are good but not remarkable as I believe at least another nine clubs - Man Utd, City, Liverpool, Everton, Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle and West Ham would draw either similar or much higher crowds. Are not Southend's crowds remarkable for a team who at best can only make the National League play offs. They are drawing the same average as when they were in the second tier in the early nineties. Nowt wrong with our support but hardly remarkable.

Well read my reply

Well only one team in that group ( City) has been put anywhere near the test our fans have faced and they fell short ?
Villa ( you mention in a later post ) had 2 years in the 3rd, and got 26,000 then 31,000 , again falling short.
United, Liverpool, Everton, Tottenham, Arsenal have what 2 seasons outside the top flight between them in the last 60 years ? I guess we will never know with them. I would agree though that their support would hold up, but only for a time.
We are now 50 years since an honour, nearly 70 years since a top 4 finish .we would have to see how some of them did in similar circumstaces ?
I would give you the Mags, based on my previous sentence.
West Ham and Chelsea , no , cant agree.
West Ham/Chelsea v Fleetwood for the 4th season down in the depths of the 3rd division is not going to have the tourists braying the doors down to get in.

You have to consider that we are a club that has had 2 moderatley decent league campaigns since 1955. 4 generations with nothing really to go on.

I dont want the thread to be derailed as it was prior to the Boro match, so I will leave it at that.

 

[billingham-mackem]

A couple of cash and contactless turnstiles sorts this Issue

If they can pay contactless they can go to the TO and buy a ticket surely ? Is that still a thing getting tickets at ticket offices ?

 

[Daffy]

Well only one team in that group ( City) has been put anywhere near the test our fans have faced and they fell short ?
Villa ( you mention in a later post ) had 2 years in the 3rd, and got 26,000 then 31,000 , again falling short.
United, Liverpool, Everton, Tottenham, Arsenal have what 2 seasons outside the top flight between them in the last 60 years ? I guess we will never know with them. I would agree though that their support would hold up, but only for a time.
We are now 50 years since an honour, nearly 70 years since a top 4 finish .we would have to see how some of them did in similar circumstaces ?
I would give you the Mags, based on my previous sentence.
West Ham and Chelsea , no , cant agree.
West Ham/Chelsea v Fleetwood for the 4th season down in the depths of the 3rd division is not going to have the tourists braying the doors down to get in.

You have to consider that we are a club that has had 2 moderatley decent league campaigns since 1955. 4 generations with nothing really to go on.

I dont want the thread to be derailed as it was prior to the Boro match, so I will leave it at that.

This ^
Knows his onions Wor Joe

 

[Eric gates hair]

What an absolute pile of shite that is.
The best part of the last decade has been for safc on the pitch utter rubbish.
Terrible to watch and just surviving for a few years and then relegation twice in 2 seasons and taking 4 seasons to get back up to the championship and even that was a struggle.


West Ham would not get anywhere near our numbers if they’d had that to put up with.

Man City before the years of success they’ve had would still get a good decent numbers as proved In hard times but I’d still argue we pull more In than they would.
Man Utd arsenal etc can’t be compared because the fan base is so huge because of the generations of success they’ve had they would’ve know what to do if they finished in the bottom half of the top league never mind league 1.

Mags would smash the place up before they got where we ended up man.
Getting beat off the likes of ( no disrespect) Cheltenham, gillingham. Burton etc for 4/5 years would finish every horse off within the north east area.

Give ya head a shake mate.

OP s a complete lawnmower man.