Astra Zeneca

[Boot Cleaner]

Don't be soft.

OK boomer

 

[Brian Griffin]

OK boomer

38 mate.

 

[Boot Cleaner]

38 mate.

So nowhere near 18-30. OK.

 

[Hot Since 82]

Risk is 4 in a million or 250,000 to 1
79 cases from 20 million jabs

Some of the figures from Europe are a bit more alarming, Norway (at last count a couple of weeks back) had 4 deaths from 125,000 AZ jabs..

 

[Jap Stammer]

Cases not deaths.

Cheers.

So the chances of actually dying from a blood clot are significantly lower than 250,000 to 1.

 

[Select coaches]

Cheers.

So the chances of actually dying from a blood clot are significantly lower than 250,000 to 1.

And would any of those people have had a clot anyway. Not every case after the vaccine will be because of the vaccine.

 

[Brian Griffin]

So nowhere near 18-30. OK.

AZ hasn't even been banned for 18-30s - JCVI are just saying if there's another vaccine available, use that instead.

 

[Jap Stammer]

And would any of those people have had a clot anyway. Not every case after the vaccine will be because of the vaccine.

Exactly.

 

[Boot Cleaner]

AZ hasn't even been banned for 18-30s - JCVI are just saying if there's another vaccine available, use that instead.

I'll still be getting whatever vaccine is given. But it's going to cause a huge concern in the 'youth' uptake

 

[Brian Griffin]

I'll still be getting whatever vaccine is given. But it's going to cause a huge concern in the 'youth' uptake

I bet it doesn't.

 

[magic snood]

Correct decision, for those under 30 who are already skeptical enough about getting a jab for a disease that is unlikely to even cause severe illness let alone death for those in that group with no underlying health issues, the blood clot thing would just be a stick to beat it with, removing that option should help convince more of us to get vaccinated.

 

[callum]

Just as I predicted, more of a chance of me dying from the vaccine that due to Covid.

Having said that, both minuscule risks which wouldn’t prevent me from taking my second AZ dose.

 

[Darlo1973]

under 30s not getting it.

my speculation is now that they will get the Moderna (sp) one now and therefore the 30-50s will still get the AZ jab..... we’ll just have to wait a bit longer

Of course we don't have much data from mass usage of the Moderna vaccine. It could have more common or worse side effects than the AZ one. These sorts of rare effects are only detectable when there are tens of millions of doses done. Clinical trials can't hope to pick them up.

 

[Grimes]

Will this have any delay on the under 30 rollout? If so surely they can’t shaft us with vaccine passports as well

 

[Silly Point]

AZ hasn't even been banned for 18-30s - JCVI are just saying if there's another vaccine available, use that instead.

Was about to ask this question, thanks! Hopefully won’t delay any of the rollout to those that are happy to have AZ (which I still think will be a good majority)

 

[Bob Fleming]

Will this have any delay on the under 30 rollout? If so surely they can’t shaft us with vaccine passports as well

They will

 

[Boot Cleaner]

I bet it doesn't.

You realise must young people don't bother with the news? They'll see the headline, see social media bullshit and be put off.

 

[Hot Since 82]

Of course we don't have much data from mass usage of the Moderna vaccine. It could have more common or worse side effects than the AZ one. These sorts of rare effects are only detectable when there are tens of millions of doses done. Clinical trials can't hope to pick them up.

Over one month ago there had been around 35M doses of Moderna vaccination in the USA so there will be plenty of data from over there. Probably well over 50M now.

 

[Grimes]

They will

Shocking

 

[Malloy]

What's the sort of timeline between having the jab and getting a clot that they are using? Is it same day or within a week or whay?