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Ashes Squad 2025

Can’t believe some of the negative comments on here. Some people just are entrenched in negativity regarding England for some reason

Really good squad, exactly what I would have picked. Jacks a great option for if Stokes is injured

Thank god they did not pick the likes of Dawson and Cook. County cricket is great but it’s just got very little relevance to test cricket in terms of the skills you need

Is anyone going to any tests? PM me if so. I have got a new job starting in January, it’s not a great job, but I am leaving my current one early to go out for full lot. Buzzing! Probs last cricket tour I will be at in a while I think.

I have Australia as big favs, I think Cummins will end up playing 3 and with Marcus Lab in form their team looks quality. Expect England to compete and win a test or 2 tho, something they haven’t done since Sydney on 2011

They will get absolutely no credit for that, many seem think that will have in spite of key, McCullum and stokes, when in reality they are the main reason.
 

MustardAndOnions said:
Can’t believe some of the negative comments on here. Some people just are entrenched in negativity regarding England for some reason

Really good squad, exactly what I would have picked. Jacks a great option for if Stokes is injured

Thank god they did not pick the likes of Dawson and Cook. County cricket is great but it’s just got very little relevance to test cricket in terms of the skills you need

Is anyone going to any tests? PM me if so. I have got a new job starting in January, it’s not a great job, but I am leaving my current one early to go out for full lot. Buzzing! Probs last cricket tour I will be at in a while I think.

I have Australia as big favs, I think Cummins will end up playing 3 and with Marcus Lab in form their team looks quality. Expect England to compete and win a test or 2 tho, something they haven’t done since Sydney on 2011

They will get absolutely no credit for that, many seem think that will have in spite of key, McCullum and stokes, when in reality they are the main reason.
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Your first paragraph is spot on.

I always thought when you supported your team that’s exactly what you did support them.

The constant negativity towards England has confused me for a number of years, especially considering where the test team was before the current set up come in.
Hope you have a great time mate enjoy!!!
 
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MustardAndOnions said:
Can’t believe some of the negative comments on here. Some people just are entrenched in negativity regarding England for some reason

Really good squad, exactly what I would have picked. Jacks a great option for if Stokes is injured

Thank god they did not pick the likes of Dawson and Cook. County cricket is great but it’s just got very little relevance to test cricket in terms of the skills you need

Is anyone going to any tests? PM me if so. I have got a new job starting in January, it’s not a great job, but I am leaving my current one early to go out for full lot. Buzzing! Probs last cricket tour I will be at in a while I think.

I have Australia as big favs, I think Cummins will end up playing 3 and with Marcus Lab in form their team looks quality. Expect England to compete and win a test or 2 tho, something they haven’t done since Sydney on 2011

They will get absolutely no credit for that, many seem think that will have in spite of key, McCullum and stokes, when in reality they are the main reason.
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I disagree on Jacks, he isn’t good enough in either skillset. He’s barely bowled with the red ball, and he will get tap

He doesn’t even play red ball much
Voice of fair play said:
Your first paragraph is spot on.

I always thought when you supported your team that’s exactly what you did support them.

The constant negativity towards England has confused me for a number of years, especially considering where the test team was before the current set up come in.
Hope you have a great time mate enjoy!!!
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You called players rubbish the other week man :lol:
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Jack Leach has 142 test wickets at 34
Jack Leach has 545 first class wickets at 27.6
Jack Leach 50 division 1 wickets this season at 22.7
Rehan Ahmed has 23 wickets this season at 19
Rehan Ahmed has 78 first class wickets at 37
Rehan Ahmed has 5 first class centuries at 76 this season

“Rubbish”

I can’t be arsed to do Liam Dawson either. 1 average test and he’s gone.

Will Jacks 49 first class wickets at 42 in his entire career
Will Jacks has 4 red ball centuries in entire career
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I’ll quote this
 
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chunkyshanhawk53 said:
I disagree on Jacks, he isn’t good enough in either skillset. He’s barely bowled with the red ball, and he will get tap

He doesn’t even play red ball much

You called players rubbish the other week man :lol:

I’ll quote this
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You well know I am one of the biggest supporters and praise of this England set up on here.

You can always find isolated incidents of players been criticized by any supporter of any club if you inclined to look hard enough and miss the bigger picture
 
Voice of fair play said:
Your first paragraph is spot on.

I always thought when you supported your team that’s exactly what you did support them.

The constant negativity towards England has confused me for a number of years, especially considering where the test team was before the current set up come in.
Hope you have a great time mate enjoy!!!
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Perhaps you'd be less confused if you viewed the comments as constructive observation aimed at improving performance.
 
Voice of fair play said:
You well know I am one of the biggest supporters and praise of this England set up on here.

You can always find isolated incidents of players been criticized by any supporter of any club if you inclined to look hard enough and miss the bigger picture
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I mean, it’s the same thread. Isolated?

Most people (most) are big supporters and praise. I think I do.

It’s ok to say someone is rubbish. That’s fine. But just recognise we all do
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
I mean, it’s the same thread. Isolated?

Most people (most) are big supporters and praise. I think I do.

It’s ok to say someone is rubbish. That’s fine. But just recognise we all do.
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Personally (not you) but think there is a loads of negativity from certain quarters and agree with the first paragraph of what @MustardAndOnions put in the first paragraph of his post.

What the regime does in terms of freeing up players and trying to take the pressure of them in big game situations is often mistaken for arrogance or not caring.

Which is far away from the truth imo as you would find it difficult to find more caring and competitive people than Stokes and McCullum
 
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Parkside said:
Perhaps you'd be less confused if you viewed the comments as constructive observation aimed at improving performance.
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The batting does look strong but hasn't been tested by an attack as strong as the Aussies under home conditions whilst the England attack is one dimensional and injury prone. Frighteningly fast if all remain fit but past records prove that is an unrealistic prospect. Negative perhaps but reality.
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Of course there is negativity, it’s sport.

I still disagree with Jacks, I think it’s a crap selection,
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I disagree with the Jacks selection as well tbf

But its not a massive mistake its not worth a massive debate he is probably 16th player picked

The rest of the squad is correct , Jacks will not play imo, and Bashir may even not in some games.

So 15 players correctly picked, one not

Will Jacks or whoever was picked instead of him was not going to influence the ashes outcome
 
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Voice of fair play said:
I disagree with the Jacks selection as well tbf

But its not a massive mistake its not worth a massive debate he is probably 16th player picked

The rest of the squad is correct , Jacks will not play imo, and Bashir may even not in some games.

So 15 players correctly picked, one not
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I’m largely in agreement with the squad. I doubt anyone isn’t

The batting largely picks itself. As does the seam bowling

Bashir is a huge gamble. Picking him and Jacks and not Leach and Rehan doesn’t make any sense to me

Crawley my opinions are well documented, his interview in the Times other week was absurd
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
I’m largely in agreement with the squad. I doubt anyone isn’t

The batting largely picks itself. As does the seam bowling

Bashir is a huge gamble. Picking him and Jacks and not Leach and Rehan doesn’t make any sense to me

Crawley my opinions are well documented, his interview in the Times other week was absurd
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Have not seen the Crawley interview so can’t comment mate.

But I do think he has a couple of things in his favour.

One is that I still think very little viable replacements and two you would think in theory Aussie wickets should suit his game playing top of the bounce.

If he was going to be dropped which I can’t argue with it should have been a year ago which would have been fair, they were never going to drop him this late.

Think whichever spin bowler we took would struggle as they all sub standard imo, not rubbish but still sub standard ;)

I don’t think any spinner we took would influence games so not to fussed in fact would advocate playing 4 seamers if conditions help.

Guess that’s my point with your first line when the squad was announced, you didn’t here comments ‘ like good and correct squad’ which it was in the main which you agreeing with, just a focus on one player who was a wrong selection
 
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chunkyshanhawk53 said:
I’m largely in agreement with the squad. I doubt anyone isn’t

The batting largely picks itself. As does the seam bowling

Bashir is a huge gamble. Picking him and Jacks and not Leach and Rehan doesn’t make any sense to me

Crawley my opinions are well documented, his interview in the Times other week was absurd
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I can see the logic in both Bashir and Crawley selections. Crawley's height and hence reach may well be successful on hard pitches with Kookaburra ball which produce little lateral movement. Likewise Bashei's height may produce the bounce required to be effective on hard pitches.
 
Voice of fair play said:
Have not seen the Crawley interview so can’t comment mate.

But I do think he has a couple of things in his favour.

One is that I still think very little viable replacements and two you would think in theory Aussie wickets should suit his game playing top of the bounce.

If he was going to be dropped which I can’t argue with it should have been a year ago which would have been fair, they were never going to drop him this late.

Think whichever spin bowler we took would struggle as they all sub standard imo, not rubbish but still sub standard ;)

I don’t think any spinner we took would influence games so not to fussed in fact would advocate playing 4 seamers if conditions help.

Guess that’s my point with your first line when the squad was announced, you didn’t here comments ‘ like good and correct squad’ which it was, just a focus on one player who was a wrong selection
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Fair.

But no one will ever disagree with Brook etc. the Jacks selection is somewhat absurd
Parkside said:
I can see the logic in both Bashir and Crawley selections. Crawley's height and hence reach may well be successful on hard pitches with Kookaburra ball which produce little lateral movement. Likewise Bashei's height may produce the bounce required to be effective on hard pitches.
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I’ve heard that logic yeah. But Crawley has still played 59 tests averaging 31.5. It’s not all about Ashes series’. Bashir has talent, he may well come good, but it feels like he’d get walloped
 
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chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Fair.

But no one will ever disagree with Brook etc. the Jacks selection is somewhat absurd
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Yeah tbf I completely agree Jacks a bad selection.

But him or his replacement was never going to influence the outcome
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Fair.

But no one will ever disagree with Brook etc. the Jacks selection is somewhat absurd

I’ve heard that logic yeah. But Crawley has still played 59 tests averaging 31.5. It’s not all about Ashes series’. Bashir has talent, he may well come good, but it feels like he’d get walloped
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Yeah I am concerned Bashir will get walloped too I agree.

But would have that concern whichever spinner we took.
 
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chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Fair.

But no one will ever disagree with Brook etc. the Jacks selection is somewhat absurd

I’ve heard that logic yeah. But Crawley has still played 59 tests averaging 31.5. It’s not all about Ashes series’. Bashir has talent, he may well come good, but it feels like he’d get walloped
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It is as far as England selectors are concerned and has been the sole focus for the last few years.
 
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Parkside said:
Which is why you can't argue against this Ashes squad. No alternatives have been offered opportunities.
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It’s why Crawley is a certain pick despite consistently failing

I hope he absolutely smashes it.

But, and to be clear, an ashes average of 32 doesn’t cut it. He’s been picked for this for years. He can’t simply play up to the worst test batsman average of all time
 
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