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Ashes Squad 2025

4/0 to Australia awful squad likes of Jacks give over too soon for Bethall. Potts out of form sub standard opener and number 3.

Your needs miracles out of a few players since 2010/11 it’s played 15 with 13 defeats and 2 draws.

Literally sick of McCullum and his constant picking from left field.
 

Liverpool Beachball said:
It feels like there always has to be one wacky selection in there for the sake of it
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Wonder who Overton’s replacement in the squad is
mackembhoy said:
Got a Lions tour out there at the same time so the size is fair enough. As can pull in numbers from that.

But picking a part timer as the backup spinner with the pressure on Bashir is laughable.
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They’re going to target Bashir anyway, even more so now knowing that there’s no serious candidate to replace him.
 
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I know he isn’t dreadful, but still think we should be taking a second proper keeper over Pope.

Look at how it benefited India in the summer even.

Got to feel Ollie Robinson will regret not having an in date passport last winter too
 
Durham-Mackem41 said:
4/0 to Australia awful squad likes of Jacks give over too soon for Bethall. Potts out of form sub standard opener and number 3.

Your needs miracles out of a few players since 2010/11 it’s played 15 with 13 defeats and 2 draws.

Literally sick of McCullum and his constant picking from left field.
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You speak as if there is loads of options when they really isn’t

Instead of twisting suggest alternatives?

You can only pick from what you have

Apart from probably Ahmed instead of Jacks the squad more or less picks itself

Who are these left field selections then?
 
I’m not entirely convinced by Jacks. Though I’m not entirely convinced by Leach, Dawson or any of the other possible more experienced finger spinner replacements either. But I’m certain that what I would not be doing is taking as my emergency backup to throw into an Ashes test in extremis a 21-year-old legspinner who hasn’t so far as I know bowled the red ball in anger on the entire continent yet.

Not taking a second wicker keeper is fine when the lions are out there anyway so we can keep a spare match fit. Likewise, a bit of fast bowling back up for our brittle as anything frontline.

Apart from that, it just reflects what we’ve got really. I’m not sure what I’d argue with.
 
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Fleagle said:
I’m not entirely convinced by Jacks. Though I’m not entirely convinced by Leach, Dawson or any of the other possible more experienced finger spinner replacements either. But I’m certain that what I would not be doing is taking as my emergency backup to throw into an Ashes test in extremis a 21-year-old legspinner who hasn’t so far as I know bowled the red ball in anger on the entire continent yet.

Not taking a second wicker keeper is fine when the lions are out there anyway so we can keep a spare match fit. Likewise, a bit of fast bowling back up for our brittle as anything frontline.

Apart from that, it just reflects what we’ve got really. I’m not sure what I’d argue with.
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Will Jacks hasn’t bowled a red ball in anger on the continent either. Bar a big bash stint 5 years ago (did he bowl?) I doubt he’s bowled many white balls either

Jacks has barely played red ball cricket full stop.

And Rehan has had a very good season.

It’s a silly choice imo
 
Voice of fair play said:
You speak as if there is loads of options when they really isn’t

Instead of twisting suggest alternatives?

You can only pick from what you have

Apart from probably Ahmed instead of Jacks the squad more or less picks itself

Who are these left field selections then?
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He’s done it constantly continues to pick players based solely on whiteball. Cost us a test series by picking Overton.

Crawley is terrible and got a recall in the last series down under despite averaging in 11.

I think his time is up the initial upturn has long since faded and he’s never won a 5 test series.

Back in the 90s in was to few opportunities now it’s far to many not enough runs in this team. It’s really 3 quality players Root, Duckett and Brook and don’t think Brook will get a ball in his half as he’s looked very unconvincing v them.

I love Woody but the fact he could not even get fit for Durham begs the question how he plays a few tests in the winter.

Hope we play great and win but I just don’t think we are equipped to win down there with this crop of players.

2010/11 had a great top 7 numerous good seamers both skill and pace with a top line spinner.
 
Durham-Mackem41 said:
He’s done it constantly continues to pick players based solely on whiteball. Cost us a test series by picking Overton.

Crawley is terrible and got a recall in the last series down under despite averaging in 11.

I think his time is up the initial upturn has long since faded and he’s never won a 5 test series.

Back in the 90s in was to few opportunities now it’s far to many not enough runs in this team. It’s really 3 quality players Root, Duckett and Brook and don’t think Brook will get a ball in his half as he’s looked very unconvincing v them.

I love Woody but the fact he could not even get fit for Durham begs the question how he plays a few tests in the winter.

Hope we play great and win but I just don’t think we are equipped to win down there with this crop of players.

2010/11 had a great top 7 numerous good seamers both skill and pace with a top line spinner.
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All that well and good, but you still have not suggested any better alternatives? or who are these left field selections in this squad?

Don’t think anyone would disagree the 2010/2011 lot better.

However can only repeat you can only pick what you have to pick from.

At least 12/13 of those players would be picked by most if not all people.

Whatever has or hasn’t happened in the past does not change the fact that in this particular squad which is the one been discussed there is no left field selections apart from Jacks.

And even with him the alternative second spinners are rubbish
 
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chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Will Jacks hasn’t bowled a red ball in anger on the continent either. Bar a big bash stint 5 years ago (did he bowl?) I doubt he’s bowled many white balls either

Jacks has barely played red ball cricket full stop.

And Rehan has had a very good season.

It’s a silly choice imo
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Don't let Stats get in the way of the Bazball love in.
Fleagle said:
I’m not entirely convinced by Jacks. Though I’m not entirely convinced by Leach, Dawson or any of the other possible more experienced finger spinner replacements either. But I’m certain that what I would not be doing is taking as my emergency backup to throw into an Ashes test in extremis a 21-year-old legspinner who hasn’t so far as I know bowled the red ball in anger on the entire continent yet.

Not taking a second wicker keeper is fine when the lions are out there anyway so we can keep a spare match fit. Likewise, a bit of fast bowling back up for our brittle as anything frontline.

Apart from that, it just reflects what we’ve got really. I’m not sure what I’d argue with.
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The Lions are only there until 9th December so aren't there as cover after the 1st test in any discipline.
Assuming the 21year old leg spinner you're referring to is Rehan Ahmed- he has a very respectable test bowling record of 22wickets at 31 from 5 tests,nor had he afaia hitherto bowled a ball in anger on the subcontinent.As ever, little logic is belittling a suggestion unless you can offer an opinion on an alternative.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
All that well and good, but you still have not suggested any better alternatives? or who are these left field selections in this squad?

Don’t think anyone would disagree the 2010/2011 lot better.

However can only repeat you can only pick what you have to pick from.

At least 12/13 of those players would be picked by most if not all people.

Whatever has or hasn’t happened in the past does not change the fact that in this particular squad which is the one been discussed there is no left field selections apart from Jacks.

And even with him the alternative second spinners
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Voice of fair play said:
All that well and good, but you still have not suggested any better alternatives?

Don’t think anyone would disagree the 2010/2011 lot better.

However can only repeat you can only pick what you have to pick from.

At least 12/13 of those players would be picked by most if not all people.

Whatever has or hasn’t in the past does not change the fact that in this particular squad which is the one been discussed there is no left field selections apart from Jacks.

And even with him the alternative second spinners are rubbish
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Jack Leach has 142 test wickets at 34
Jack Leach has 545 first class wickets at 27.6
Jack Leach 50 division 1 wickets this season at 22.7
Rehan Ahmed has 23 wickets this season at 19
Rehan Ahmed has 78 first class wickets at 37
Rehan Ahmed has 5 first class centuries at 76 this season

“Rubbish”

I can’t be arsed to do Liam Dawson either. 1 average test and he’s gone.

Will Jacks 49 first class wickets at 42 in his entire career
Will Jacks has 4 red ball centuries in entire career
 
The first choice spinner is rubbish sadly I think it’s a joke that they have decided that Somerset’s third choice spinner is the best we have to offer. He can’t bat is a terrible fielder I have seen zero improvement in Bashir.

He does not vary his pace enough bowls to straight think he will get smashed.

Potts has been dreadful this season I really rate but you don’t ho from averaging 40 in division cricket.

To taking wickets in an Ashes. I think it’s highly unlikely Archer or Wood play more than 3 tests.
 
chunkyshanhawk53 said:
Jack Leach has 142 test wickets at 34
Jack Leach has 545 first class wickets at 27.6
Jack Leach 50 division 1 wickets this season at 22.7
Rehan Ahmed has 23 wickets this season at 19
Rehan Ahmed has 78 first class wickets at 37
Rehan Ahmed has 5 first class centuries at 76 this season

“Rubbish”

I can’t be arsed to do Liam Dawson either. 1 average test and he’s gone.

Will Jacks 49 first class wickets at 42 in his entire career
Will Jacks has 4 red ball centuries in entire career
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Yeah last time Leach toured Australia he went for a 100 of 10 overs in the first test.

That said I would have picked him over Jacks tbf

And Ahmed as well, but Jacks is probably the 16th player picked who will probably most likely not play.

The squad itself picks itself and in the main is the right selection, but as always posters need something to twist about?

Rather than the squad itself bar one or possibly two players is the correct one.

It reminds of when England football team squads picked for World Cups when people twist about the 22nd player picked the fourth choice centre half who will not play anyway
 
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