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Ashes 5 test - The Oval
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stephen cartwright
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Win by tea on sunday
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stephen cartwright
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Yes
That was clearly legside and a huge inside edge. Should have reviewed it
Caught and bowled root in a previous test, siddle iirc
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The warthog
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Mental how you are so critical of our second best batsmen and the only opener whose done well this series. But you’ll back Bairstow to the hilt even though he’s forgotten how to bat in tests and averages something like 20 in the last two years.
McGregor
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A little bit harsh. He's one of the few batsmen to come out with a bit of credit. Yes he's got a fault with the short ball. All batsmen have weak points, except Steve Smith.
Captain Slackbladder
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Awful shot under the circumstances
mackembhoy
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It's amazing how us laymen can see this, but the selectors and coach think this is a fantastic idea to have Root and Stokes the two most senior batsman playing out of position.
Yep just shows why he should bat 6
Agreed although think it’s just for 1 game mind
Can’t have Jonny in at 5 like
Fletch73
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Stokes out cheaply and playing a bad shot, AGAIN. When he gets big runs they're usually spectacular - SA, Lords, Headingley. Other than those his overall record is as average as Bairstow's.
Stokes - 57 tests, 3500 runs @ 35, 8 centuries
Bairstow - 69 tests, 4000 runs @ 35, 6 centuries
Jonny's batting gets non-stop stick (I give him plenty) and Stokes gets virtually none.
Is it because his big scores are more headline-grabbing/matchwinning?
Is averaging 35 acceptable because he's an all-rounder?
I know that batting all-rounders tend to get more runs in the 2nd half of their careers as their bowling workload decreases a bit, but I still think Ben should be averaging mid-forties.
Stokes - 57 tests, 3500 runs @ 35, 8 centuries
Bairstow - 69 tests, 4000 runs @ 35, 6 centuries
Jonny's batting gets non-stop stick (I give him plenty) and Stokes gets virtually none.
Is it because his big scores are more headline-grabbing/matchwinning?
Is averaging 35 acceptable because he's an all-rounder?
I know that batting all-rounders tend to get more runs in the 2nd half of their careers as their bowling workload decreases a bit, but I still think Ben should be averaging mid-forties.
Absolutely
Still don’t think there’s any merit in putting in a batsman in for the 5th test though
Stokes is brilliant
There’s far too much obsession with averages on this board it’s mad
I’ve no interest in what stokes average is, he wins games
Never Gonna average mid 40s in England, so hard to do
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Steak Pie
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Mostly because the averages are going in opposite directions. Bairstow's is dropping off, Ben's is on the up.
He's on a hiding to nothing here in the SMB Kangaroo court mind. Get out cheap and he'll get stick, get a score and he'll be criticised for not giving up the gloves and moving up the order.
No, unless there's someone who they've identified as the next batsman up, who will definitely tour, and who's home ground is The Oval.....
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Fletch73
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And how many games do we lose because our batsmen don't get 'average' runs? It's feast or famine with too many in this team.
Most people have just reached a point of frustration with Jonny. Being a gobsh**e doesn't help him either.
He’s not a gobshite at all like, very nice lad.
Just internet trolls being internet trolls.
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