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Article on Yorkshire in lates Private Eye.

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This came out around the same time as the club announced that it would not be finding a replacement for Stanlake in the T20, or offering various higher earning players including Plunkett and Bresnan new deals. Read into that what you will.

I'm going on Thursday but if, as I expect, we're out of the competition by the end of July I will vote with my feet for the rest.
 
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stephen cartwright said:
£18 million debt. Durham's was £7 million iirc.

Now going on that, that's an 80 point penalty, relegation, no prize money for ten years, and the removal of test matches forever.

Or

Nowt happens.

You choose?
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Totally different circumstances …. if Yorkshire became reliant on the ECB in the same way that Durham did then there'd be cause for complaint, but they haven't.
 
Bri said:
Totally different circumstances …. if Yorkshire became reliant on the ECB in the same way that Durham did then there'd be cause for complaint, but they haven't.
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Debatable

Part of our treatment was to warn club's from getting into unsustainable debt

The debt is owed to graves, who is leaving Yorkshire. Can Yorkshire generate that money from cricketing activities?

If they can't, the precedent is set.
 
stephen cartwright said:
Debatable

Part of our treatment was to warn club's from getting into unsustainable debt

The debt is owed to graves, who is leaving Yorkshire. Can Yorkshire generate that money from cricketing activities?

If they can't, the precedent is set.
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Only if they have to resort to the ECB ….. and receive ECB funds (if only as a loan). Other clubs have been bailed out by sugar daddies or Councils, that's the way of things but all of them would be entitled to demand a price in repayment terms, a share holding etc. It's up to whoever hands over cash.
 
Bri said:
Only if they have to resort to the ECB ….. and receive ECB funds (if only as a loan). Other clubs have been bailed out by sugar daddies or Councils, that's the way of things but all of them would be entitled to demand a price in repayment terms, a share holding etc. It's up to whoever hands over cash.
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Both Glamorgan and N'Hants received bail outs from ECB without sanctions. They tried to keep Glamorgan 's quiet but it leaked out an so ECB said it was compensation for losing test matches. Durham are arguing the case at preaent. N'Hants loan was for far less but somehow slipped under the radar probably because there were no sanctions attached
 
Bri said:
Only if they have to resort to the ECB ….. and receive ECB funds (if only as a loan). Other clubs have been bailed out by sugar daddies or Councils, that's the way of things but all of them would be entitled to demand a price in repayment terms, a share holding etc. It's up to whoever hands over cash.
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That's to be seen. They clearly indicated to Durham that the sugar daddy route, councils etc was to be frowned on.

They wanted counties sustained within cricket activities, corporate and sponsorship

£18 million debt is way above the debt was at Durham answer received massive punishment

The main debt at Durham was paying for tests up here. Virtually the actual debt figure.

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Both Glamorgan and N'Hants received bail outs from ECB without sanctions. They tried to keep Glamorgan 's quiet but it leaked out an so ECB said it was compensation for losing test matches. Durham are arguing the case at preaent. N'Hants loan was for far less but somehow slipped under the radar probably because there were no sanctions attached
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There you go.

There was a definitive will to hammer Durham by the ftecb.

Yorkshire at boardroom level, with support of the likes of Hampshire, could not stand test matches being played up here. Numerous articles of this were available at the time.

Now we get the above happening and Durham should have allrights returned if nowt happens to other counties.

It stank then, it stinks even more now
 
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Parkside said:
Both Glamorgan and N'Hants received bail outs from ECB without sanctions. They tried to keep Glamorgan 's quiet but it leaked out an so ECB said it was compensation for losing test matches. Durham are arguing the case at preaent. N'Hants loan was for far less but somehow slipped under the radar probably because there were no sanctions attached
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Didn't know the second.

But yes on the first, that payment was disgraceful and the ECB had lied about it and it was only discovered in Glams. final accounts iirc.

Durham and all Counties should be having words with the ECB on that!
 
These cases need something like panorama or cutting edge documentaries on them.

There is a scandal just waiting to be discovered here
 
Don't do a Hampshite on us. You're better than that :) Ideally you should be reinstated to div 1 and start the season with a points advantage of what you were deducted, but that's not going to happen unfortunately.

Seriously though this club is a disaster waiting to happen. Has been for over a decade.
 
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Silly Point said:
Don't do a Hampshite on us. You're better than that :) Ideally you should be reinstated to div 1 and start the season with a points advantage of what you were deducted, but that's not going to happen unfortunately.
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Don't want anything but equal treatment. The penalties are still in place at Durham, as all prize money is retained by the FTECB.

Will graves by advocating the same for Yorkshire if his money is not forthcoming?

The two examples given are exactly how Durham was in debt, yet Glamorgan and Northamptonshire have suffered no consequences

It was a disgraceful act what was done to Durham, which is a laugh with the potential of stoneman, Jennings, wood and stokes all being in the England set up

We've were shafted well and truly and now we have lost most of our championship winning team.

Jennings, coughlin, stoneman, borthwick, onions, mustard

No doubt when the 100 comes around stokes and wood will be tapped up
 
I get what you're saying but the ECB won't do a thing as they'd be doing it to half the counties at least (think they should as the precedent is set, but they won't). As I say Yorkshire CCC are walking a tightrope especially now Graves is pulling out. Counties will go under in the future, giving FTECB the excuse to stop county cricket altogether.

This season more than ever I'm starting to wonder what the point is. Problems at YCCC and the wider game in this country. Get the World Cup next year out of the way and I may take a step back and just focus on my playing the game instead.
 
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I get what you're saying but the ECB won't do a thing as they'd be doing it to half the counties at least (think they should as the precedent is set, but they won't). As I say Yorkshire CCC are walking a tightrope especially now Graves is pulling out. Counties will go under in the future, giving FTECB the excuse to stop county cricket altogether
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If they won't act, that leaves a wide open goal for Durham to seek guidance.

You can't hammer one county whilst openly supporting others or doing it on the sky.
 
Bri said:
Totally different circumstances …. if Yorkshire became reliant on the ECB in the same way that Durham did then there'd be cause for complaint, but they haven't.
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Not reliant because the person they owe it too, the ECB chairman, isn't calling for it book

so corrupt

Durham should have took this to court, there is no precedence or legal rules for what they did, they just made it up
 
stephen cartwright said:
There you go.

There was a definitive will to hammer Durham by the ftecb.

Yorkshire at boardroom level, with support of the likes of Hampshire, could not stand test matches being played up here. Numerous articles of this were available at the time.
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Nail on the f***ing head Carty.

Or to put it another way. Graves and Bransgrove - they stood and still stand to benefit hugely from Durham’s demotion and loss of Test Match status.

The f***ing shitcunts.
 
The Rat said:
Not reliant because the person they owe it too, the ECB chairman, isn't calling for it book

so corrupt

Durham should have took this to court, there is no precedence or legal rules for what they did, they just made it up
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Maybe not at the time …. because there was no time and Durham had to agree or go under … if they'd tried a court route at that time the organisation would have broken up because they had no cash to pay wages.

But ……. that doesn't mean they can't take it to court now. They were coerced into an agreement that is unfair and that is enough I reckon for them to say 'a promise given when the other party is twisting your arm and threatening you means nothing'.
 
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