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Another NEPL club on the move??

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Heard on Saturday that Stockton are having a meeting this week and are voting to either stay in NEPL or move to NYSD

As it's a members vote they think it will be the later and they will resign as players are unhappy with the travel they have to do.

So possibly 4 clubs required or would they go for 2 divisions of 10 for a season or 2
 

Heard something about Blaydon wanting to drop back into NCTL as well.

NEPL could be the engineers of its own demise. Should it go back to the original concept of one league and the rest is dropped back into the pyramid and becomes more of a pinnacle for clubs who want to reach it
 
Going to be an interesting couple of weeks. Can imagine a few clubs no longer keen to spend the money they are just to survive.

If the rumours are true about a breakaway league as well outside of the pyramid then that may be of interest to some clubs as well. A couple of leagues may collapse if this isn't all joined up
 
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Going to be an interesting couple of weeks. Can imagine a few clubs no longer keen to spend the money they are just to survive.

If the rumours are true about a breakaway league as well outside of the pyramid then that may be of interest to some clubs as well. A couple of leagues may collapse if this isn't all joined up
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Is this breakaway league happening ?

Seen one dinosaur on FB alude to it but heard nothing else
 
minty said:
Heard on Saturday that Stockton are having a meeting this week and are voting to either stay in NEPL or move to NYSD

As it's a members vote they think it will be the later and they will resign as players are unhappy with the travel they have to do.

So possibly 4 clubs required or would they go for 2 divisions of 10 for a season or 2
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The soonest Stockton would leave would be for the 2020 season. At the moment the only stumbling block is the NYSD's insistence that Stockton firsts would start in what is Division 3 and seconds in Division 4. This is what Norton had to do when they returned.
Stockton's worry then is that younger promising players, used to "premier league" cricket would leave rather than waiting, at least 2 years, for Stockton to get back into the NYSD "premier" league.

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What is more strange is the Academy decision to pull out of the league.
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Most Counties do not operate Academy teams the way Durham do.
They have less players in their Academies and each one is "allocated" to a "premier" league club and play their Saturday cricket there.
Mid week they will train with contracted players and play games, also mid week.
This way the Academy players will be under pressure to perform, almost, as a second "professional".
Batters will bat every week and bowlers will bowl every week.
 
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badger55 said:
Most Counties do not operate Academy teams the way Durham do.
They have less players in their Academies and each one is "allocated" to a "premier" league club and play their Saturday cricket there.
Mid week they will train with contracted players and play games, also mid week.
This way the Academy players will be under pressure to perform, almost, as a second "professional".
Batters will bat every week and bowlers will bowl every week.
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But this could be the reaosn for Durham (past and present) having a lot of homegrown players in the first class and test arena. Maybe Durhams approach was correct?
 
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But this could be the reaosn for Durham (past and present) having a lot of homegrown players in the first class and test arena. Maybe Durhams approach was correct?
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Only one or two make it through the Academy each year. Instead of having 14-16 players as they have had in the past, concentrate on the best 8 ??
I was present at a "talk in" some years ago with Dale Benkenstein, and he advocated the "smaller" Academy and placing the players at "premier league" clubs.
He was "sent" to the Bradford League when he was 17 and along with the "pro" was expected to be,one of the two leading players in the side.
 
Badger55, a valid point in that the Academy lads could get more of a go playing for NEPL teams, as the 'Durham' player.
 
badger55 said:
Most Counties do not operate Academy teams the way Durham do.
They have less players in their Academies and each one is "allocated" to a "premier" league club and play their Saturday cricket there.
Mid week they will train with contracted players and play games, also mid week.
This way the Academy players will be under pressure to perform, almost, as a second "professional".
Batters will bat every week and bowlers will bowl every week.
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Thanks, you've explained it much clearer than the DCCC media release.
 
@wicketkeeper.

What do you think?

pavarotti1980 said:
Heard something about Blaydon wanting to drop back into NCTL as well.

NEPL could be the engineers of its own demise. Should it go back to the original concept of one league and the rest is dropped back into the pyramid and becomes more of a pinnacle for clubs who want to reach it
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Or should we go back to local leagues to support struggling clubs with struggling finances?
 
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Struts said:
Never understood why there isn't a Youth League competition for the counties.
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Probably due to logistical reasons.

minty said:
Heard on Saturday that Stockton are having a meeting this week and are voting to either stay in NEPL or move to NYSD

As it's a members vote they think it will be the later and they will resign as players are unhappy with the travel they have to do.

So possibly 4 clubs required or would they go for 2 divisions of 10 for a season or 2
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Would make perfect sense for Stockton to go into the NYSD like. Geographically for sure.

On the NEPL, I think there’ve been some interesting points raised about whether it’s engineered it’s own demise - perhaps the best thing for its future would be to look at having one Division only, perhaps of 14 teams and to aim to sit atop the Pyramid.

One thing which isn’t helping the whole charade, is the amount of different governing bodies involved within the system all putting their own foot first, which is understandable, but it just muddies the water and the clubs are the ones who lose out.
 
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Voice of fair play said:
@wicketkeeper.

What do you think?



Or should we go back to local leagues to support struggling clubs with struggling finances?
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I think the whole thing is a mess which many of us predicted at the time. There are only an elite few clubs who can afford to compete effectively at NEPL level. When I say a few I mean that literally.
I would imagine that the amount paid out to players, coaches, facilities and even officials ( given the hours they put in) is much more than clubs in the NYSD and old DSL paid.
Trying to semi professionalise local cricket for the sole benefit of the County was always going to end badly.

We need to go back to local leagues based primarily on regions administered by representatives from the clubs who care about the futures of the clubs in their leagues and not the bloody ECB.
 
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wicketkeeper said:
I think the whole thing is a mess which many of us predicted at the time. There are only an elite few clubs who can afford to compete effectively at NEPL level. When I say a few I mean that literally.
I would imagine that the amount paid out to players, coaches, facilities and even officials ( given the hours they put in) is much more than clubs in the NYSD and old DSL paid.
Trying to semi professionalise local cricket for the sole benefit of the County was always going to end badly.

We need to go back to local leagues based primarily on regions administered by representatives from the clubs who care about the futures of the clubs in their leagues and not the bloody ECB.
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When just local cricket clubs are calling someone director of coaching! it’s lost it’s soul for me.
 
To be fair despite my previous rantings I am not suggesting that the NEPL is solely responsible for the demise of local cricket , obviously lack of interest is also a major factor. However to put greater demands and costs. on local clubs at a time when they were already struggling was always going to end badly. Chester and South North can be in a 2 team Premier League.
 
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Quite a bit of bedwetting over the NEPL on here. Remember only the Academy have bailed out this year. Brandon were removed. Plenty teams in NEPL1 wanting promotion, and plenty DCL and NTSL teams wanting to joing NEPL1. Having played in the NEPL this year, I have sensed no clubs being disillusioned with the league, or struggling to get sides out (bar Brandon).

Stockton could go to NYSD, as mentioned previously that makes sense geographically, and having spoken to Blaydon lads they have no intention of leaving, they have spent nothing this year and struggled as they knew relegation wasn't an issue.
 
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