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an all time hard men eleven

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When you talk about hard men, if you go back to the sixties, seventies and beyond football was full of hard men, some never mentioned but it was just took for granted.
I mean our hero Charlie Hurley you would never find on these lists but he was hard as nails, no fucker messed with Charlie he makes Bremner and company look like pussycats.
The Beheaders had two centre halves back then who were animals Ollie Burton and John McGrath they kicked owt that moved.
Our ex manager Dennis Smith was hard as nails broke just about every bone there was to break. There were countless others who make some of them on that list look like fuck all.
 

geronimo06 said:
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
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Your team doesnt have harris. Or john kay.

Also was Baresi known as a hsrd man? I was quite young when he was playing but i thought he was known for barely ever needing to slide in. Pure class defender
 
geronimo06 said:
1 toni schumacher
2 giuseppe bergomi
3 franco baresi
4 vinny jones
5 dave mackay
6 norman hunter
7 eric cantona
8 gennaro gattuso
9 duncan ferguson
10 billy whitehust
11 mick harford

i would love to see that lot play in the modern game nowadays , and how many of them would be left on the pitch after ninety minutes
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Vinnie Jones over Kevin Ball - give over man
 
Jarramelinos said:
Lukaku didnt shy away, Zlatan looked worried to me.
Are we picking hard men as in handy with their fists or shithouse cowards?
Schumacher - shithouse challenge on Batiston doesn't make him hard
Jones - thug, limited ability so kicked people instead, ended Gary Stevens (Spurs) career with a shithouse tackle
Baresi - was a sweeper, hardly made a tackle in his role, let Gentile do all the cynical stuff
Gatusso - hilarious, Souness called him a little dog, said Joe Jordan would've destroyed him for real.

Rush, Dalglish, Lineker, Beardsley, Cowans, Hoddle etc etc were all hard men because theygot kicked to bits every week but still had the moral courage to show for the ball and ultimately destroy the "hard men" with their ability.

Nobody has mention Bruce Rioch, Colin Todd, Bertie Auld, John Giles, Bobby Murdoch, Johnny Morrissey, Graeme Souness, Peter Storey, Nobby Stiles, et al........just about every side had hard men in it during the 60's 70's and to an extent, the 80's until the authorities clamped down on some of the excessively violent challenges, it was a very violent game back then.....look at some of the challenges Jinky was subjected to, stuff like that would land you in front of a judge these days.
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its an all time hard man eleven not 111 , obviously its personal choice and everyone will have their own selections
 
geronimo06 said:
its an all time hard man eleven not 111 , obviously its personal choice and everyone will have their own selections
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Absolutely, I didn't name a team, only players I'm surprised nobody had previously mentioned, and players I wouldn't consider or who were never considered "hard men"....like Baresi, never ever heard of him being a labelled a hard man, cultured defender maybe but never a hard man
Shouting before you're hurt lad
 
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Big Jack Charlton. Not someone who dished it out especially but not many would mess with him. His autobiography references a few times where he lost his rag playing for Leeds against European teams, his opponent no doubt regretting winding him up
 
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