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Alexandre Mendy (transfer rumour)

Perryqhill said:
So the team didn't look open under Mowbray, especially the more the season went on?

I'm a Mowbray fan, but most fans would concede that. I'd find it difficult to take anyone seriously who wouldn't concede it.

Then we didn't actively look to improve that?
Being more compact and structured under Beale and then negative under Dodds which resulted in us losing any sort of forward penetration we had.

What you seem to be saying is it can only be the amount of goals conceded that determines if you are defensively sound or not, without looking at how that's achieved and the set up and balance of the team as a whole - and of course that cannot differ or be changed or effected over the course of the season.

After 22 games on 19th December (Beale first game 23rd iirc) we had scored 32 goals. Mowbray left 5th December (we'd scored 3 inbetween) and we only scored 20 more goals over the remaining 24 games.

We'd conceded 24 goals on 16th December (22 games) and finished conceding 54, meaning 30 more goals were conceded over those 24 games.

Simply looking at that shows there was a drop off all round, but noticeably more in attacking impetus - suppose we didn't try to tighten up then?

There was problems in defence as well as attack and certainly in central midfield which left us vulnerable.
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We didn't concede many goals and we're defensively pretty good. The issue was teams ran straight through our midfield directly at our centre backs. That was what beale talked about preventing. It wasn't anything to do with the centre backs, who were superb most of the season, it was to do with the protection in front of them.
 

martinsmithsonofpele said:
Shut the fuck up. Danny Graham is not better than Mayenda or Rusyn. He played 51 league games for us, 14 in the league below us, and scored 1 goal, which came off his f***ing arse.
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The failure to grasp levels on here always astounds me 😂.

Danny Graham wasn’t very good for Sunderland, however danny Graham at his peak was a fringe premier league striker, he scored regularly in the championship and had a decent spell in the prem.

I can’t see rusyn ever getting to that level, mayenda has a lot of potential, but currently there’s absolutely no way you can predict he’ll be better than Graham based on one good championship performance.

Graham wasn’t good for us, but if rusyn or mayenda match his goals in decent/good leagues, they’ll have had decent careers.
 
Dobblemackem said:
The failure to grasp levels on here always astounds me 😂.

Danny Graham wasn’t very good for Sunderland, however danny Graham at his peak was a fringe premier league striker, he scored regularly in the championship and had a decent spell in the prem.

I can’t see rusyn ever getting to that level, mayenda has a lot of potential, but currently there’s absolutely no way you can predict he’ll be better than Graham based on one good championship performance.

Graham wasn’t good for us, but if rusyn or mayenda match his goals in decent/good leagues, they’ll have had decent careers.
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Graham was shit for us but definitely far better than either of those two. He was very good at Swansea. Agree with you here
 
poolie said:
Graham was shit for us but definitely far better than either of those two. He was very good at Swansea. Agree with you here
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Bloke twice came to us, and twice absolutely took the piss, and was a complete liability. Basically treat us like a holiday camp the prick.

That doesn’t change the fact, elsewhere he was very decent. Good records at a lot of clubs at a high level.
 
cluffy said:
Bloody hell if we actually sign Mendy and Isodor I’ll be beyond excited. Whole squad would look strong with them two imo
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I doubt we’ll sign both. The Isidor signing is probably our “fuck off, we’re sick of being messed about” to Mendy’s club.

Hope I’m wrong.
 
Dobblemackem said:
Bloke twice came to us, and twice absolutely took the piss, and was a complete liability. Basically treat us like a holiday camp the prick.

That doesn’t change the fact, elsewhere he was very decent. Good records at a lot of clubs at a high level.
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Then he cries on podcasts about being victimised for being a jawdee, it wasn’t anything to do with that it’s just that he was stealing a living out of the club and didn’t apply himself anywhere near as much as he did at Swansea etc
 
parsonjohn1985 said:
We didn't concede many goals and we're defensively pretty good. The issue was teams ran straight through our midfield directly at our centre backs. That was what beale talked about preventing. It wasn't anything to do with the centre backs, who were superb most of the season, it was to do with the protection in front of them.
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Isn't that defensively though?

We'd lose the ball and call it experience, strength or at times work ethic a quick counter or two precise passes would get teams in too easily. We were quite average in the air in both boxes - very reliant on Ballard without Batth or Cirkin/Alese.

I didn't say the actual defenders were poor - for some reason this is being massively misinterpreted or overdone, although we did lack a left back most the season and that effected us going forward and defensively.

We were just too open and hence defensively not great, because you defend as a team.
 
Nelson! said:
Different types of players so it seems more likely we want both. We need a number 9 like Mendy, RLB has said so, and Isidore doesn’t fit that role.

Think it will be both.

Sounds too good to be true, which is why many can’t believe it.
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Kev75 said:
One is a loan ( with a view to being permanent) and one is permanent. It sounds very likely to have both.
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I hope you're both right, and I agree about the assessment that they seem to be different types of forward. At least we'll know in 11 days or so.
 
cluffy said:
Bloody hell if we actually sign Mendy and Isodor I’ll be beyond excited. Whole squad would look strong with them two imo
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All means nowt until we see them play of course but if we resolve the striker issue and have emerging players fair play to them. It’ll make this place bearable. Possibly
 
Perryqhill said:
So the team didn't look open under Mowbray, especially the more the season went on?

I'm a Mowbray fan, but most fans would concede that. I'd find it difficult to take anyone seriously who wouldn't concede it.

Then we didn't actively look to improve that?
Being more compact and structured under Beale and then negative under Dodds which resulted in us losing any sort of forward penetration we had.

What you seem to be saying is it can only be the amount of goals conceded that determines if you are defensively sound or not, without looking at how that's achieved and the set up and balance of the team as a whole - and of course that cannot differ or be changed or effected over the course of the season.

After 22 games on 19th December (Beale first game 23rd iirc) we had scored 32 goals. Mowbray left 5th December (we'd scored 3 inbetween) and we only scored 20 more goals over the remaining 24 games.

We'd conceded 24 goals on 16th December (22 games) and finished conceding 54, meaning 30 more goals were conceded over those 24 games.

Simply looking at that shows there was a drop off all round, but noticeably more in attacking impetus - suppose we didn't try to tighten up then?

There was problems in defence as well as attack and certainly in central midfield which left us vulnerable.
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Agree with that, though I'd temper the lower goalscoring fact of the final 24 games a little bit by including that our leading scorer / creator was out for 6-7 of those games. But you do need someone else to step up, and the coaches do have to come up with a plan B, and I'm not ignoring how negatively and horribly we played in that run-in though
 
I asked Grok if he is signing:

Based on the information available up to August 20, 2024, Alexandre Mendy remains determined to join Sunderland, with his agent expressing hope that a deal can be finalized before the transfer deadline. Despite ongoing negotiations throughout the summer, no final agreement has been publicly confirmed as of the latest updates. However, posts on X and statements from Mendy's agent indicate a strong likelihood and ongoing efforts to make the transfer happen, with both Mendy and Sunderland appearing keen on the move. Therefore, while it's not confirmed, there's significant sentiment and expectation within the community and from involved parties that Mendy will sign for Sunderland, especially as the transfer window deadline approaches.
 
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