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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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Flared Hicks said:
Interesting?

Disgraceful more like.

Johnson, aye a bit of a bad lad but eeeh man that little Lolita slut, obviously gagging for it, leading him on yada yada yada
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I genuinely feel sorry for todays youngun's, I mean aye she probably was chuffed it happened at first but it's hardly surprising when you look at the shit that they're bombarded with these days. The f***ing kardashians and many other shallow talentless arseholes that seem to be revered by todays media. Geordie bastard shore, more arseholes made famous for getting pissed, arguing and shagging about.. The f***ing pressure to impress 24/7 on social media. I've seen teenagers spend most of their hols posing for photos to hoy on Instagram or Facebook then staring gormlessly for hours at the responses rather than just f***ing enjoying themselves. They live in a world full of dubious role models where reality takes a back seat and their online persona is everything. No the wonder the lines are blurred, it's a f***ing nightmare for them...
 

Purrfect South said:
I have pretty strong views on this, and they're not about protecting men. Men, I agree have a moral duty to behave around children. I do think we've gone morally askew as a society though. We think we've got it sussed, by having stronger laws to protect children, but at the same time we're not monitoring their behaviour after they reach a certain age. Its an issue that won't go away, and has got harder to police. Those pics, and messages the youngsters are sending to each other, are out there in the ether. They can be used, and watched by unscrupulous people with a knowledge of how to obtain them. I'm just touching on a subject that too many are afraid to address, for fear of being non PC.
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And we spend HUGE amounts of time educating kids about this and i mean huge amounts of time, they are bombarded with it at school....Again, children are children, they are immature and do daft stuff, its what separates them from adults, its the reason they age of consent is 16, why they cant marry till they are 16 (and even then only with parents permission) and why they cant vote til they are 18.....They are too immature to make such massive life decisions.

I am very much a believer that people do not control their sexuality. Just as some people are attracted to people of the same sex, some are hetrosexual and some for what ever reason are attracted to children. They cannot help that, it is who they are just as I am heterosexual......HOWEVER! As a heterosexual male, if I was single for years on end and had not had sex during that time I would not choose to go out and rape somebody no matter how sexually frustrated I might be. Similarly those who are attracted to children do not control that but they have the choice not to act on those urges and become an abuser.
 
The Master said:
So if an 8 year old did the same would they no longer be classed as a child?
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If course they would be a child. A young child. Not a adolescent 15 year old. Totally different.
I'm not defending anyone. Johnson is a cretin and a sex offender but continual use of the term "Child" is an emotive word designed to stimulate horror in people. It's what the press do but it's not a true image of what people see when they think of the word "Child".

It's bad enough what happened. Why should SAFC supporters make it worse by giving energy to soundbite words in this like "Child"
 
sdurhamlad said:
A child who was bragging to her mates that she was going to "ride him" and only reported it when her parents found out.
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Good point that which a few have forgotten about.
I don't think that the victim is so naive and innocent as some are making out.
However aged only 15 means Johnson is a child abuser.
I'm now waiting to see if a claim goes in.
 
sdurhamlad said:
If course they would be a child. A young child. Not a adolescent 15 year old. Totally different.
I'm not defending anyone. Johnson is a cretin and a sex offender but continual use of the term "Child" is an emotive word designed to stimulate horror in people. It's what the press do but it's not a true image of what people see when they think of the word "Child".

It's bad enough what happened. Why should SAFC supporters make it worse by giving energy to soundbite words in this like "Child"
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Because legally she is a child.
 
The Master said:
Because legally she is a child.
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Legally she is a minor for me which is not an adult but someone descriptive of the word "Child does not boast on websites about going to" ride adult males. It's not cut and dried this in reality although legally it might be
 
sdurhamlad said:
Legally she is a minor for me which is not an adult but someone descriptive of the word "Child does not boast on websites about going to" ride adult males. It's not cut and dried this in reality although legally it might be
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That doesn't matter though, legally she is a child and that's what matters at the end of the day.

Littlerobbieh said:
Ok well legally Sunderland have done nothing wrong so this thread can just be closed with us all satisfied.
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I've not seen anyone say they have done anything legally wrong.
 
haway said:
I'm not saying this is in anyway the case.

All I am saying is it not clear that Byrne will 'fall on her sword' because if she did know, then we don't know who else knew. I wasn't trying to suggest it was the case, I have no idea, but it isn't as clear cut as 'if it's found out Byrne knew she will 100% end up getting canned'.
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If, she has known all this time sacked is what she should be as for what's happening in the press, its because of that statement and what was said in court is why they smell blood and are going after the club for a fresh kill like lions at feeding time
 
Sumdumgi said:
Who says the Club is in the shit with sponsors ?

Corporate clients will know the crack and how difficult this has been to deal with. Short will know how this has been handled and however unpopular she may be with some on here she has been the continuity in his ownership. We know when things go wrong he isn't afraid to get rid of people so I kind of assume that Byrne has had his support and more importantly to get that she must be delivering what he has asked her to. Anway the match has kicked off ...
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I was speculating that trouble with sponsors may be a problem,I wasn't saying it would happen. The Johnson matter to one side,this club has been very poorly run under Short and Byrne and I can't believe for a minute that his demands have been met.
 
Sumdumgi said:
His demands of her must have been met otherwise she would have gone the way of O'Neill, Bruce and the the rest surely.
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The fact she's still there is just another part of the mismanagement during Short's tenure that it's impossible for us to comprehend.
 
sdurhamlad said:
Legally she is a minor for me which is not an adult but someone descriptive of the word "Child does not boast on websites about going to" ride adult males. It's not cut and dried this in reality although legally it might be
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I dare say schools hammer online grooming and shit a canny bit so she should have knew the score. However we know some girls are a bit err forward and Johnson should have ceased all contact with her the second he found out her age. It's irrelevant how slaggy a 15 year old goes on, or how fit she is or how old she looks. She's 15 and rules are rules squire. To be honest it would be a bit Savilly banging anyone under 18 when you're in your late 20's... He deserves all the shit coming his way...
 
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