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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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Useless at Roker said:
No you haven't but the feelings of bereavement depend upon your emotional attachment.

Some people cannot accept the fact that their hero, one of their own, has done this!
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I accepted it the day he pleaded guilty as did most. Their hero, haway man. He was a footballer that played for my team, simple as that.
As for emotional attachment I've never been emotionally attached to a footballer since I fancied Gary Rowell when I was 13.
 
janey said:
I've come to terms with it, it's something I had no control over it, I'm not responsible, one person was responsible,he's gone, my football team remains.
I'm not embarrassed, neither is my 78 year old dad, neither of us are responsible, only one person was responsible, he's gone our football team remains.
Bereavement, what a stupid comparison, believe me I've experienced bereavement and this feels nothing like it.
Have I or for that matter many others said the victim ISN'T the child?
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This
Johnson , Byrne et al conducted themselves for their own benefit ....
Not in our collective name or for our benefit .... As such they have to atone, just a case of when and how
 
Useless at Roker said:
No you haven't but the feelings of bereavement depend upon your emotional attachment.

Some people cannot accept the fact that their hero, one of their own, has done this!
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I think 'bereavement' is the wrong word but I know what you mean. We become emotionally attached to our very own organisation/institution and the natural tendency for some folk is to protect it in any way we can. Very natural human instincts.
 
Father Jack Hackett said:
Is he the prick who mocked the seriously ill little lad with the backpack?

C unts like him should have no opinion on such matters and deserve a hiding, if anything.
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Geniunely? I've had a browse online and he seems to be a failed author come occasional blogger come twitter wanker.
 
AC Mack said:
Thanks for this. If this is taken to be the true nature of events, then this timeline should be stickied at the top of each page to stop some of the circular arguments.

From this though, there is clearly a big issue from 4th May. If Johnson has admitted kissing the girl, and we had access to the WhatsApp messages, a) why the hell didn't we just sack him on the spot, and b) if we haven't read the transcript of messgaes, why the hell not?

Who gives a fuck if we thought he was going to plead not guilty if he has ADMITTED TO KISSING A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL and we had access to all these incriminating messages? If you're inclined to give MB the benefit of the doubt in that she may have been badly advised then that's your prerogative, but this looks f***ing terrible to me. If our club's name is tainted because of something like this then whoever is responsible needs to get out of our club ASAP.
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The reason I say I'd give them the benefit of the doubt is that the club said the documents they received were passed immediately on, to me that suggests they weren't read. I accept that doesn't address your second point but without knowing the context of how they received the information it doesn't automatically mean they sat with their fingers in their ears and covering their eyes to avoid the evidence in front of them. Either way, as I said, the club don't come out of this well at all.

We're able to pick apart the club's statement because it's there in writing, I don't know if there's a full transcript of the allegations AJ and his QC made regarding the club, if there is I haven't seen it, but I imagine it could be picked apart and found to have as many holes/questions as the clubs statement. I prefer to give the benefit of doubt to the spin statement from SAFC ahead of that of a desperate, lying, child sex offender
 
Useless at Roker said:
No you haven't but the feelings of bereavement depend upon your emotional attachment.

Some people cannot accept the fact that their hero, one of their own, has done this!
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Grow up
Footballers are selfish and egocentric
If people want to cast them as heroes .... It's speaks volumes about how shallow their world is ... These men aren't heroes theyre paid athletes. They don't give a shit about you and they play for themselves ... Naive to think anything else
 
Must be bored said:
The reason I say I'd give them the benefit of the doubt is that the club said the documents they received were passed immediately on, to me that suggests they weren't read. I accept that doesn't address your second point but without knowing the context of how they received the information it doesn't automatically mean they sat with their fingers in their ears and covering their eyes to avoid the evidence in front of them. Either way, as I said, the club come out of this well at all.

We're able to pick apart the club's statement because it's there in writing, I don't know if there's a full transcript of the allegations AJ and his QC made regarding the club, if there is I haven't seen it, but I imagine it could be picked apart and found to have as many holes/questions as the clubs statement. I prefer to give the benefit of doubt to the spin statement from SAFC ahead of that of a desperate, lying, child sex offender
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The benefit of the doubt is a good point, most seem to be giving it to him rather than to the club.
 
Morse said:
Indeed, I stand corrected. All the more reason to raise the age to 18 across the EU, yes? This legal standpoint of 'you're sort of able to make an informed decision about sex at 16, but not entirely' is dangerous IMO.
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Imho, that would still lead to the same problems if (say) the youngster was 17 years old.
 
chunkylover53 said:
Sorry but that's a crock of shite.

It's a player from a football club.

Your username suggest you are a grown man, stop making utterly ridiculous comparisons
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Players come and go. Fans and players don't have the same connection like they did once.

This whole affair shows why the link is broke. If the Mags offered Johnson double his money to sign for them he'd be up in the shit heap like a bullet from a gun:lol:
 
Kenna said:
She was almost a year from 16, one of the messages had Johnson ask when she was 16 and then he replied that's ages away, then still decided to try shag her anyway
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He's an arsehole, he's going to be punished for the rest of his life. Now he's taken care of, how do we stop young people falling into the hands of other AJs? Do we keep insisting that these young people are incapable of learning how and why they should avoid these situations because it's a sensitive issue to suggest that they have the power in some cases (I stress that - some cases) to stop this happening?

In some of the attacks on me I've mentioned, I was simply physically overpowered. Nothing I could do about it. The last time it happened, I was stalked by a neighbour and 'friend' of the family who had two kids of his own, youngsters who to this day I fret about. I wonder if it happened to them and if I should have spoken out to protect them, or whether they oblivious and best off not knowing about their Father's little secret. Perhaps had the power to stop it happening to them, yet I kept quiet.

I accept some blame for any of his subsequent victims, and to some extent for the first encounter with the man where I found out what grooming was all about and I could have stopped him. Maybe that's a warped perspective, and that's probably why I feel the way I do about this case, who knows...
 
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