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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict
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NeilP
Winger
I have an idea for a fictitious drama being played out in the depths of Tyne & Wear
March 2 2015
Woman: Sir we've got a major issue, A player has been arrested on a charges of a sexual nature with a minor, no details but the press will be all over it
Boss: Get him suspended immediately
May 4 2015
Woman: Sir it's been confirmed, he's pleading not guilty but I've seen the evidence myself. Text messages the lot. He did it, no doubt.
Boss: Get him playing as soon as possible.
Not sure the viewers would keep watching badly scripted illogical shite like that
March 2 2015
Woman: Sir we've got a major issue, A player has been arrested on a charges of a sexual nature with a minor, no details but the press will be all over it
Boss: Get him suspended immediately
May 4 2015
Woman: Sir it's been confirmed, he's pleading not guilty but I've seen the evidence myself. Text messages the lot. He did it, no doubt.
Boss: Get him playing as soon as possible.
Not sure the viewers would keep watching badly scripted illogical shite like that
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Think the server is breaking under the strain. Another double post
Rober33
Winger
Legally yes, morally we're still not sure although a lot of people have already made their minds up that the club knew he was guilty and played him anyway.
The Cabbage
Striker
That's my biggest problem with the it. The response is illogical. The way the club behaved is a logical follow on from them not knowing of the admission of guilt. Maybe that does suggest incompetence but collusion seems unlikely.
Rober33
Winger
Fair enough, I take it back then.
On the defensive on this thread
In fairness I've been accused of being thick as well as other things that may well be true and told to log off and stop embarrassing myself.
None of the insults came from @shepherd88 so I apologise for being snippy.
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ollie c
Guest
S21With his brief in attendance?
I have my own theories about what went on here, and why. I'm not about to share them mind so don't ask.
---Nemo---
Striker
Windypants
Striker
Because, at this time, there are a number of issues which are points of conjecture, at best. Did the Police give the club Adam Johnson's statement (something it appears they shouldn't have done)? If they did, did anyone at the club read these, or did they just pass them immediately to Johnson's brief? What was the advice from the PFA that led to Johnson's suspension being rescinded? Did Adam Johnson plan to defend all charges, but change his mind at the last minute on legal advice? Were the club aware of anything other than Johnson maintaining his innocence and his intention to plead not guilty? The list of unknowns is quite long and everyone of them compounds the confusion surrounding what may, or may not have been said.
If the club have done something stupid, then they have to take responsibility, but, there's a lot of 'they're clearly guilty' being bandied about based on incomplete and conflicting comments that have been interpreted against a timeline that is very confused.
From what I've read, most things that are being interpreted as people saying the club has done nothing wrong are actually criticisms of people saying the club definitely have done something wrong.
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ollie c
Guest
An eviction notice?
Rober33
Winger
I don't know El Dorado got a decent run.
The Beautiful Game
Striker
This for me. People want Byrne to be guilty. The statement is poor but it doesn't prove they're guilty. People demanding they deny these allegations would just pick holes in the next statement or say they don't believe her. Sad state of affairs. Johnson is the one who should be the recipient of people's anger.
Thats the problem the club give themselves.
What was in the information, surely the club can't expect anybody to believe it wasn't relevant and they didn't take further advice given the information. The statement is trying to infer they washed their hands of it and didn't take any notice. The club gave themselves a problem because having reinstated him, how would they explain suspending him again and all that would suggest to everyone. If that information did suggest guilt then the club should of really just replaced him in the summer and be done with it, at least then they would have an explanation as to why they couldn't resuspend him. Given the timing of that meeting it would of been reasonable to suggest it would of taken a couple of weeks to digest take advice and the season would of been done. Either way you look at it its a mess of their own making, like others over the past few years.
The Beautiful Game
Striker
This anarl. No one knows for certain that the club has done anything wrong. There are two camps, those saying "the club is in the wrong" and those saying "we don't know the club is in the wrong". No one is saying for definite that the club did nothing wrong.
The Master
Midfield
Then I would be relieved.
However logically you would have to agree that if the club didn't have a clue about what he got up to, then they would have said that in the club statement, as that is obviously something that the media will latch onto and tear you to shreds for.
Durham Police have came out and said that we knew the details.
It's logic vs burying your head in the sand.
Perhaps, they aren't the ones who were brought up in court and mentioned by the police though
ftm1974
Midfield
You missed the line about "our team is performing badly without him and relegation is a real threat"
If you think that's a denial after it's been explicitly said that Johnson admitted guilt and Byrne saw documentary that proved he'd committed an offence, and that statement was intended in its own words to refute allegations made during the trial, then you are dreaming.
deleted user 785
Striker
Maybe they're bored shitless of it as well?
equuleus
Midfield
I am of the opinion that if the rumoured 4-10 year sentence is true, Johnson has been made example of and harshly punished.
Just yesterday I was reading about a man that was taking indecent photos of young girls, and touching them in toy shops whilst secretly filming it. He had been doing this 'project' for years. This man has been given 2 years in prison. How does that crime deserve 50% less time then what Johnson is looking at?
Ones a paedophile the other is a man that acted very irresponsibly and arrogantly but had no history in pursuing young girls until this incident.
Just yesterday I was reading about a man that was taking indecent photos of young girls, and touching them in toy shops whilst secretly filming it. He had been doing this 'project' for years. This man has been given 2 years in prison. How does that crime deserve 50% less time then what Johnson is looking at?
Ones a paedophile the other is a man that acted very irresponsibly and arrogantly but had no history in pursuing young girls until this incident.
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