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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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Keith S30S said:
I'd love to know some more facts about the meeting. I maybe being niave but I can't imagine the club would be given a huge dossier of evidence, with statements from both parties and transcripts of nearly 900 messages and the cops saying, have a good read and drop it back at the station when you're done with it.

Surely that would have been incredibly dangerous?
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So it's a conspiracy?
 

Keith S30S said:
I'd love to know some more facts about the meeting. I maybe being niave but I can't imagine the club would be given a huge dossier of evidence, with statements from both parties and transcripts of nearly 900 messages and the cops saying, have a good read and drop it back at the station when you're done with it.

Surely that would have been incredibly dangerous?
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The club had a vested interest in the case and it very much seems like Johnson was happy for the club to be provided with that information.
 
The police seem to be acting a little strangely at the moment.

As far as I know the police aren't being criticised yet, even before the sentencing, they give an exclusive interview to the BBC.

This is the investigating officer on a case that has been to court and lead to a successful conviction.

Is it normal behaviour for them to be discussing details of the case before sentence is passed?
 
Purrfect South said:
Did you see a written copy of his initial admission? Just wondered how you seem so definite that he confessed?
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'In his first police interview, Johnson admitted kissing the girl and knowing that she was 15.'

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It was also on the live court reports on pretty much all of the news outlets on 24th Feb.

Obviously I haven't seen the transcript of the police interview, so am just going off what has been reported live from the court each day.
 
haway said:
What the fuck are you blabbering on about?

Yes, I'm sure the same fuckwits who are blaming the victim in this thread would continue to blame her if she was from Newcastle, but nobody with a braincell would suggest that.

Look at some of the recent Asian sex grooming cases. In many of the cases you have girls aged 12, 13, 14, 15 who 'go along with it' e.g think at the time it's consensual, and think the men are their 'boyfriends' because they give them gifts and attention when really they are being exploited and only see it later, once they have some distance from it and some emotional support. The fact a victim (WHO IS A CHILD) isn't aware at the time they are being groomed doesn't in any way, shape or form exonerate the person exploiting them.
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:) Are you comparing this to Muslim sex gangs plying lasses with drink & drugs. Fukcin hell.
 
KGC83 said:
Why are people forgetting the PFA's role in all this? The club initially suspended him to be told by the PFA that they had to unsuspend him.
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On what basis could the club be "forced" to revoke the suspension of a player who had been charged with sexual activity with a child?
 
Reiver said:
The police seem to be acting a little strangely at the moment.

As far as I know the police aren't being criticised yet, even before the sentencing, they give an exclusive interview to the BBC.

This is the investigating officer on a case that has been to court and lead to a successful conviction.

Is it normal behaviour for them to be discussing details of the case before sentence is passed?
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I thought it was pretty formal that after someone is found guilty they would make a statement to the press particularly in a case where a victim has been absued but I may be wrong.
 
Honestly can't be arsed to go searching 222 pages, but has anybody linked this or similar yet?

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So if you were a teacher and accused of something like this, then yes of course you should be suspended. If the nature of the accusations are not related to your job functions, then you probably shouldn't be suspended.

IMHO what evidence the club had seen or not seen is irrelevant. Until he was tried in a court of law it was only evidence, not proof, and a football club, or any other employer for that matter, should not be required to decide someone's guilt or innocence. There is quite rightly only one place where that should be determined.

For what it's worth, I think what he has done makes him the biggest bell-end in the history of the Premier League, and that takes some doing. I hesitate to write this, because I don't want to demean what the girl has been through at all, but to an extent the club are a victim of his lies and disgraceful behaviour too.
 
The Sheepfolds End said:
He seems like a bit of exceptional case; seemingly ready to take aim all the time.

But any other fan criticism certainly could have been alleviated by SAFC upholding his suspension. No Johnson on the pitch = no fan support or chants for him. Out of sight, out of mind. SAFC's decision to withdraw the suspension, IMO, gave the green light to supporters to get behind Johnson, it was almost like he'd been acquitted in many supporters eyes, albeit that was naive. The supporters then got behind what is now a convicted sex offender and will unfairly receive criticism from some quarters.

I never joined in with it, but I certainly won't be critical of those who did (the supportive chants that is, not the pathetic, 'shags who he wants' stuff) as I believe they've been badly misled
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I agree about not being critical, again the only person responsible for that was Johnson and the position he put people in. A lot of the time the chants were to drown out those being sung about him by the opposition fans and I defy many supporters of any other club to say they wouldn't have done the same.
 
KGC83 said:
Why are people forgetting the PFA's role in all this? The club initially suspended him to be told by the PFA that they had to unsuspend him.
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Were they categorically 'told' they had to? If that's the case, the club should come out and say it.

I'm not an expert in the field of employment law but I'm fairly certain the club couldn't be 'told' to withdraw the suspension; particularly if it was with full pay.

And if the club initially suspended him without consulting the PFA, then they should be criticised for acting far too hastily.
 
Lipso said:
Using an Internet site to invite people to your garden isn't a laughable matter and I do not wish to discuss this further.
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Yet you posted on the subject twice without any problem on a totally unrelated thread :lol:
 
LeicesterMackem said:
No. I read lots of reports from different sources most days of the trial. But it was verbatim reports of the texts. It was the reason he was convicted of touching her - the texts clearly indicated what had happened. There were no such texts about the oral sex, so that's why he was found not guilty of that.
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Ive followed this trial very closely, ever since the rumours before his arrest, not once have i seen anything saying that, or anyone else mention it.
 
Sweeper said:
On what basis could the club be "forced" to revoke the suspension of a player who had been charged with sexual activity with a child?
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Could they jeopardise his right to a fair trial? I'm not too sure mate I just hope there was a legal implication why the club didn't sack him initially.
 
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