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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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What is blatantly obvious to you may not be to other people.

I prefer to look at the facts and I'll give the club the benefit of the doubt until I have good reason not to. So far the only person I blame for all of this is Johnson.

Well now would be a good time to do it. The club had the whatsapp messages and a transcript of the interview in which he admitted to meeting and kissing her. I find it hard to believe that there are still people who think the QC would lie about that, and risk his career for no apparent reason. That's what matters here. Let's also not forget that statement was in the papers over a week ago, If the club could refute that statement, they would surely have done so by now. There is no sensible reason for them not to.
 
Where have i blamed the victim you f***ing moron ? I said she's a liar, and there's no evidence to suggest she was telling the truth, btw they're asking about you on the oatcake, wondering why you haven't been on to lick their arseholes out.

Is that necessary
 
Or your determined not to believe it despite evidence to the contrary, works both ways that.

What evidence to the contrary? Are you seriously suggesting that the QC knowingly lied in court, for no apparent reason? If so, why have the club not addressed that (the most important issue) in their statement?
 
Well now would be a good time to do it. The club had the whatsapp messages and a transcript of the interview in which he admitted to meeting and kissing her. I find it hard to believe that there are still people who think the QC would lie about that, and risk his career for no apparent reason. That's what matters here. Let's also not forget that statement was in the papers over a week ago, If the club could refute that statement, they would surely have done so by now. There is no sensible reason for them not to.

Show me the primary source of all of this material and I will happily re-asses my opinion.
 
Isn't the offence just if the child is under 16 anyway? There's not a separate offence for under 13? I thought all it said was if offender is over 16 and victim is 13- 15 then he has to not 'reasonably believe she is over 16' but if he's under 13 he's fucked whatever he believes? They're not separate offences are they?
I'm just talking about sentencing guidelines. Under 13 has lengthier sentences.
 
What evidence?

The statement of the lead detective today that she told the club that he had messaged the girl, had met her and sexual activity had taken place. The statement in court of the QC, who said unequivocally that the club had been provided with copies of the interview transcript, and all 836 whatsapp messages between Johnson and the girl. These are damning statements - which again begs the question - why, if they are able to refute these statements has the club not done so?
 
She told the club he had messaged and kissed the girl, because he had himself admitted to that in his interview when he was arrested. It was not "speculation" at that point and it was not "an allegation". He had admitted it, and that was communicated to the club.

So he admitted to the police that he kissed the girl, then pleaded not guilty to kissing the girl?
 
What evidence to the contrary? Are you seriously suggesting that the QC knowingly lied in court, for no apparent reason? If so, why have the club not addressed that (the most important issue) in their statement?

I thought you'd read my posts.

He doesn't have to lie to misrepresent what actually happened.

He had a reason (there would be no point him mentioning it at all if he didn't) - To try and show Johnson was not afraid of losing his job and wages and that wasn't the reason he continued to lie.
 
Where have i blamed the victim you f***ing moron ? I said she's a liar, and there's no evidence to suggest she was telling the truth, btw they're asking about you on the oatcake, wondering why you haven't been on to lick their arseholes out.
Have you read or heard the statement she released yesterday?
 
Where have i blamed the victim you f***ing moron ? I said she's a liar, and there's no evidence to suggest she was telling the truth, btw they're asking about you on the oatcake, wondering why you haven't been on to lick their arseholes out.

So why did you think a jury decided 10-2 to say she was telling the truth if there was no evidence. I take it you must have been sat in the public gallery during the whole trial right? ?
 
Where have i blamed the victim you f***ing moron ? I said she's a liar, and there's no evidence to suggest she was telling the truth, btw they're asking about you on the oatcake, wondering why you haven't been on to lick their arseholes out.

:lol::lol::lol:

It's a different haway who posts on their board you f***ing spenk, this is the only forum I post on.
 
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