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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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The Cabbage said:
Certain on what? That the club read and understood the transcripts etc? I haven't seen anywhere any quotes from any journalists anything that says anything other than the club had copies of those transcripts at the meeting. That's not to say that there isn't a quote somewhere. I spent a fair bit of time avoiding the whole grubby mess. However I haven't seen that said by Halliday or any other press outlet.
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So they recieved copies but didn't look at them? I don't believe that. Plus they completely avoided the allegation that he told them about kissing a 15 year old.

Anyway, we have our statement out now...
 

Brett said:
The red tops have really went for us this morning. It's only one day , we won't be in the news by tomorrow
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I think this one might run for a while. The ached Evans thing went on for a good few days when Oldham were talking about signing him.

It's a mess that the club have created themselves by not nipping it in the bud initially IMO.
 
prehab26 said:
They had the evidence and AJ admitted to them that he kissed a 15 year old. They don't answer that. Also, they recieved the evidence and passed it to his lawyers? So your saying they didn't look at it ? FFS
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It's mental that people think they would look at it to be honest. If they knew and still played him obviously that's wrong. The fact is though the club said in their statement they had no idea, and that they passed the evidence straight on. As far as I'm concerned that's pretty concrete evidence that the club didnt know. It baffles me that some people are believing a journalist and convicted sex offenders barrister and using it as concrete evidence.
 
The Cabbage said:
Certain on what? That the club read and understood the transcripts etc? I haven't seen anywhere any quotes from any journalists anything that says anything other than the club had copies of those transcripts at the meeting. That's not to say that there isn't a quote somewhere. I spent a fair bit of time avoiding the whole grubby mess. However I haven't seen that said by Halliday or any other press outlet.
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This.

People seemingly know exactly what went on despite not really knowing went on. The club were put in a terrible situation through no fault of their own and they possibly could have handled it better. However whatever they'd done they'd have been wrong in some people's eyes. No win situation caused by a sick fucker who violated a young lass.
 
prehab26 said:
So they recieved copies but didn't look at them? I don't believe that. Plus they completely avoided the allegation that he told them about kissing a 15 year old.

Anyway, we have our statement out now...
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There is no defending the club here. Don't understand why people are doing this. They f***ing knew. They knew and they did nothing. Unforgivable in my opinion. I'd rather have taken relegation than have this cloud hanging over us.
 
---Nemo--- said:
As events proved, a guilty plea allows them to do so. A not guilty plea is a different game altogether. They aren't going to risk being accused of prejudicing a trial, or being sued for wrongful dismissal if he walked and it could have happened, despite the evidence. If they'd sacked him that day his brief would have been talking to the jury about how the club had wronged him. :lol:
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Just as well we have a lawyer as CEO.....just think of the mess we could have been in without that experience eh.
 
janey said:
The only people not to blame are the fans, this message board will be being read by a whole load of journalists, and they will lap it up to create more negativity, when there is already more than enough to go around.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of this case the last thing we need is to fuel the negativity, because they will use this to do just that.
If I had my way I'd close this thread.
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Why people people are uncomfortable with the shoddy statement that we put out ?

Yes, it creates negativity but the club failed to squash it all with not answering things directly.
 
becs said:
Who said that Sunderland AFC have seen the message transcripts and police interview recordings?

Was it just the defence who claimed they had? As given the rest of the stuff that came out, I'm more inclined to believe that the club did not see the finer details.
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Do you think maybe that a sexual predator, a person at the very bottom of the social scale, who was cynical enough to lie and cheat and abuse and pretend it all didn't happen might just have been pissed off with the club who had just sacked him? Maybe a tactic to deflect or diminish blame? Well if the club knew and thought it was ok members of the jury, maybe you could go lightly on me too?

People on here are desperate to put the club down,
 
partridge amongst the pig said:
It looks like they knew about the messages and the kiss though. That's enough for a suspension surely?
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You'd have thought it was enough given that our CEO is a lawyer and must know that the messages would be construed as grooming and the kissing as sexual activity. The club were put in a very difficult position IF they were in receipt of this knowledge but IF they were, playing him seems a bizarre response to it.
 
Fetch Fletch said:
Surely The board should've been called to the stand?
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Why to tell people something Johnson has already admitted? Byrne may have had copies of the files so what. Its not like she was sat in the f***ing car geeing him on and giving him high fives.

It was a tricky position for any senior club member to be in. He was found guilty and sacked. Surely thats enough?
 
prehab26 said:
Why people people are uncomfortable with the shoddy statement that we put out ?

Yes, it creates negativity but the club failed to squash it all with not answering things directly.
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But we aren't going to change that, there as many comfortable with the statement as uncomfortable to be fair, and as many think the statement answered the questions as didn't.
And, no matter how long this thread gets or how long it's debated people have their opinions, which they are perfectly entitled to and aren't going to change them.
 
The Sandance Kid said:
The statement is very strong? Really?
It doesn't address the one issue the fans want to know... Did the club know he was guilty (I.e did they have all the evidence) but played him anyway?

The statement just talks about his plea. No mention of the details stated in court and the press hysteria would all go away if the club said they "didn't have any evidence".

It has been stated in court that they did. That they knew he was guilty and played him anyway. I'm sorry but the club statement did not address this at all.
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The statement says he told them he intended to defend all the charges and that they had no knowledge that he would change his plea until it happened on the first day of the trial. They say they utterly refute any allegation they knew of his intention to change his plea.
 
ANonnyMoose said:
He'll never play football again, he's lost his girlfriend and he's not going to see his daughter grow up until she's potentially at school. I think that's more than enough punishment myself like.
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Unfortunately I think he showed how much he really cared for his GF & little girl when he was involved in all this mess. Literally was messaging about his little girl looking "class" seconds away from texting a child he was grooming for sex. So he's lost what he didn't care for much.

Losing some if his basic rights as a human being is the least he now deserved.

And I also hope he is taken to civil court for significant damages to his wealth as that's what will really hit home to him that he has been a complete and utter perverted wanker.
 
NeilP said:
Do you think maybe that a sexual predator, a person at the very bottom of the social scale, who was cynical enough to lie and cheat and abuse and pretend it all didn't happen might just have been pissed off with the club who had just sacked him? Maybe a tactic to deflect or diminish blame? Well if the club knew and thought it was ok members of the jury, maybe you could go lightly on me too?

People on here are desperate to put the club down,
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I'll agree with his motivation.

In fact I am still completely confused as to the relevance of the club at all in this. It is all 'hear say' unless they stand up in court to defend it.
 
Fetch Fletch said:
I'll agree with his motivation.

In fact I am still completely confused as to the relevance of the club at all in this. It is all 'hear say' unless they stand up in court to defend it.
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As I've said Johnson had his case heard in a Court of law and was presumed innocent until guilty, presumably by the club as well, the club, who have committed no crime are clearly guilty until presumed innocent
 
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