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Adam Johnson Trial Verdict

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FanchesterCity said:
I'd make one distinction on that... but it's an important one:

There is a difference between a man who wants sex with someone BECAUSE they are 15 and one who wants sex with someone DESPITE them being 15. The former suggest a predilection for minors, whilst the latter suggest a lack of will power and moral responsibility.
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He knew she was 15 mate, all interest should've ended there. He googled the age of consent and still wanted sexual activities to the point of grooming. I'm sticking with my pervert stance. I've learnt a new word though. ;)
 

Fetch Fletch said:
That's just defensive rubbish though fella.

It's not our job. And how the hell do we know who is available for such a position?

Fact is, she's been pretty naff.
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So you know for a fact she's been naff but don't know who the hells better. What's her regular daily routine ?
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
I have a feeling she will stay. I honestly can't see the club admitting any sort of wrong doing over this no matter how pushed they are by the press. Sacking her will show that the club fucked up so for that reason I can see her staying on, at least till this blows over
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Where did I mention sacking her? If it turns out that she knew all the facts and she then decided to keep Johnson and have him available for selection, then she is morally corrupt and the press will hound her until she falls on her sword.
 
Littlerobbieh said:
So if we sack her and employ someone who's CEO of a team who's bottom of the Spanish 3rd division you'd be more than happy with that ?
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I think we both know that as a Premier League club we pay enough to attract someone that's got more on their CV than a part time Spanish club. But if someone's good at their job and can keep a tighter ship than she's been able to then what does it matter where they currently work?
 
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So you know for a fact she's been naff but don't know who the hells better. What's her regular daily routine ?
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Well there's 20 teams in the premier league, the mags are ran terribly but that leaves at the other 18 teams. I'd say the equivalent person at those clubs is better than her at their job
 
It's the lead story on look north tonight too.

It's not going to go away for at least a few weeks this
 
Dogbark said:
Effectively it is.

Your last paragraph demonstrates how the law and reality aren't completely in sync.
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No, they are in sync. It's not really measuring the competence of the minor, it's the competence of the adult.

Imagine you place all under 16 inside the 'line' and all adults outside it (as the law does) - we know that there might be some 15's mature about to be outside it, and some 16's who are immature enough to be inside it, but the law isn't really trying to stop minors stepping outside, it's to stop predators stepping inside. The law assumes a responsible adult knows never to step inside that line, regardless of how mature the minor is.

It's no different that the speed limit in that respect. Of course some roads aren't designated correctly and that the numbers are some arbitrary value that differs from country to country - but if you can't stick to the rules, you know there's a potential consequence.
 
Reiver said:
I have few facts to support this but, let's face it, that doesn't seem to be a requisite for some people on here.

It's starting to appear as if the police initially went to the club in an attempt to pressurise them into hanging Johnson out to dry.

They seem to have divulged much more information than I believe in usual, or are now claiming to have done.

We're they hoping the club would sack him and leave him isolated? That would certainly have made their job easier and removed doubt in the minds of the public and possibly jury. I can't understand why the police are so keen to go to the BBC and, almost exclusively, talk about what the club knew.

Why aren't they, as they usually do, talking about the convicted person, the conviction and how it was achieved?

There's something that just doesn't smell right.
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I 100 percent agree. The police wife looks awkward as owt on the telly as well. The arseholes want him to get 10 yr when people do things 5x worse and get less than half that. It's ridiculous really tbh
 
Maggie signed Alvarez? Sack the bitch.
I've got no idea what she is and isn't involved in yet whenever something goes wrong it seems to be her fault.
Her marking of Wickham on Tuesday was a disgrace.
 
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