A victory for freedom of speech.... and sanity

Aituk7

Striker
Gender is how you define yourself.
Well that isn't true.

I have plenty of scientific studies such as Dr Debrah Soh's work to back up what I'm saying.

But it might offend someone who's teetering on the edge of suicide because they have severe mental health problems.

Do you want my opinion banning?
 


Coeus

Striker
That's something we'd need to define as a nation. Just like we classify films as PG or 15,18 etc. The same way we can figure out what is libellous and defamatory. I'm sure the finest minds in the land can easily define this.
What if the nation decided restriction of speech had already gone to far?

Who decides the finest minds?

For me post 3 on this thread was pretty unpleasant, should it be banned?

By restricting speech further, would it not continue to add fuel to those people you are trying to censor?

The very notion is bizarre to me.
 

Hep

Winger
Well that isn't true.

I have plenty of scientific studies such as Dr Debrah Soh's work to back up what I'm saying.

But it might offend someone who's teetering on the edge of suicide because they have severe mental health problems.

Do you want my opinion banning?
Gender...

Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
 

Aituk7

Striker
Gender...

Either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
Do you want my opinion banned?
 

Hep

Winger
What if the nation decided restriction of speech had already gone to far?

Who decides the finest minds?

For me post 3 on this thread was pretty unpleasant, should it be banned?

By restricting speech further, would it not continue to add fuel to those people you are trying to censor?

The very notion is bizarre to me.
The finest minds are the MPs and Judiciary they already define and interpret all of the other laws.
Do you want my opinion banned?
You're welcome to your opinion, it isn't in line with the currently established facts and one researcher doesn't change that.

And as you're debating in a respectful way, no it should not be banned. I don't think anyone is saying debate is wrong, it's abuse disguised as free speech or debate that is.
 
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Coeus

Striker
The finest minds are the MPs and Judiciary they already define and interpret all of the other laws.
I'm not sure the finest minds are the MP's and didn't the judge rule that this particular incident had been handled very poorly by trying to censor people? Apologies if he didn't as I haven't really looked into it.

Whats the end game here? Everyone's thoughts being censored, everyone living in a safe space where unpleasantness is outlawed? Pretty sure when ever they make films about this type of scenario it doesn't end well.
 

Aituk7

Striker
and that's when we need abuse to be defined. So far, nothing you have said is abusive, it debate. That tweet wasn't debating it was abuse.
Ok so I have a real problem with nazi's.

I think they're sub human scumbags.

That's abuse. Is that allowed in your world?
Unfortunately, you have to accept that people have opinions that you don't like. You're not likely to change their opinion on social media
Or by censoring them.
 
Ashkenazi Jews are more intelligent than white people.
Black people can't become white people and vice versa.
Men aren't women.
The earth is flat.
The holocaust didn't happen.

Some of those statements are obvious bollocks. Guess what? Debate the point and change the person's mind. If your arguments are so weak that you have to cry abuse then you're nearly as bad as the people who abuse individuals for their views. Also, who has ever had their mind changed from you silencing them?

Can't wait for the quote mining.
 
Great news for the bigots of the board, I’m sure. Doubtless this thread will be full of the SMB’s middle-aged, university of life intelli-notsia sharing right-wing YouTube videos.


and as if by magic :lol:
Many of Harry's most vocal supporters were self declared radical feminists. Around the same time a new mother who was still at the breast feeding stage was arrested for making comments deemed to be unacceptably critical of trans people, as was as a lady in her 70s who had made some passing comment online. There has been a militant group of utterly deranged unsociable bullies who had cottoned on to the police and politicians being too scared of their shadow and eager to jump on whatever the next right-on thing, and they are using this to completely exploit and abuse basic freedoms.

South Yorkshire Police in particular seem to have a real thing about this trans gibberish, and seemed to think they could operate 1984 style intimidation. They compounded their position with questionable poor conduct along the way.
 

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