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Kevin Friend's Wes Brown decision was not the worst of the weekend
MANAGER Gus Poyet went berserk and pundits condemned the referee in unison. Internet message boards, with all their unmoderated madness, called for the official to be sacked.
By: Mick Dennis
Published: Tue, November 26, 2013
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RED MIST: Kevin Friend is berated by Gus Poyet after sending off Wes Brown [GETTY]

Friend's was not the worst refereeing decision of the weekend

Kevin Friend’s sending-off of Sunderland’s Wes Brown for “fouling” Charlie Adam was almost universally lambasted.

Only almost. With predictable partisanship and lamentable hypocrisy, the opposing manager understood the decision. Stoke’s Mark Hughes was Friend’s only friend.

Brown steamed in and threw himself, with both feet off the ground, into the challenge. But he made a clean contact with the ball and landed back on the deck about a fortnight before Adam arrived on the scene.

Friend gave himself time to think about it, which is a good thing. Then he pulled out the red card, which was a bad thing.

But here’s the real thing. It was not the worst refereeing decision of the weekend.

There were two other howlers which were more unforgivable because they were more inexplicable.

Kevin Mirallas karate-kicked Luis Suarez just above the knee, yet was only cautioned. Wayne Rooney kicked and slapped Jordon Mutch but he, too, escaped with a yellow card. Yet those two mistakes did not provoke the torrents of criticism that engulfed Friend.

Understandably, Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers was miffed about that assault by Mirallas. But he only indulged in silly speculation that the poor, misunderstood Suarez would have been punished more harshly if he had been the assailant, rather than the victim. There was disappointment in referee Phil Dowd, rather than the staring-eyed anger that Poyet directed at Friend.

And after Cardiff’s draw with Manchester United, managers Malky Mackay and David Moyes seemed to have signed some sort of pact not to be too harsh about referee Neil Swarbrick.

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It was really Rooney who should have been sent off this weekend for his clash with Mutch [GETTY]

What did Mackay make of Rooney’s petulant, spiteful attack on Mutch? Um, nothing much. What did Moyes think about Marouane Fellaini being thumped in the face by Gary Medel? Not a lot. Perhaps these things just do not warrant a mention in Glasgow. All of which proves something all referees learn – you get considerably more abuse for sending someone off mistakenly than you do for giving a yellow card when, really, a red would be in order.

At any level of refereeing, you have a much easier life if you err on the side of caution. That’s just the way it is. Similarly, you get far more stick for giving a dubious penalty than for letting a defender get away with a foul in the area. As evidence of that, consider two incidents involving West Brom. Charlie Adam fouled Albion’s Youssouf Mulumbu in the Stoke area, but Howard Webb missed it. He apologised, but there wasn’t much hoo-hah.

Yet, a month later, Andre Marriner awarded Chelsea an unwarranted late penalty at home against Albion and that decision, and the apology it caused, is still reverberating around the game.

So ask yourself this – is Marriner more or less likely to give a penalty at the moment? And that is the real problem.

The way that managers and pundits respond to mistakes of commission rather than omission – doing something rather than not doing something – discourages the referees from making big calls. If we want them to have the courage to send off Rooney early on when he lashes out at an opponent, and if we want them to be brave enough to send someone off for an outrageous and hazardous challenge in an emotional Merseyside derby, then we have to be less censorious when, occasionally, someone is sent off erroneously.

Friend had to judge three objects – Brown, Adam and the ball – moving in time and space. He misinterpreted what he thought he had seen.

But, then, he had the courage to act on what he believed had happened. And in that respect, he did better than Dowd or Swarbrick.

We all need more Friends.
 


Who the fuck is Mick Dennis. So because Mark Hughes lied about the challenge it wasnt the worst decision? And he didnt lunge in 2 footed, f***ing idiot, it was the worst decision because it reduced our team down to ten men. Some of these reporters come out with some shite
 
crap article, as the ref has to be sure before he makes a decision. If a ref isnt sure, or didnt see the incident, he wont (generally) send the player off, and nor should he.

this is why its much better to do f***ing nothing, than to make a 'brave' f***ing mistake.

This journo is almost patting friend on the back for having the balls to send brown off, even though it was wrong. what a absolutely terrible point he is trying to make.


how can a decision to NOT send a player off for a dangerous tackle be worse than sending a player off for nothing. this guy is a complete and utter idiot.
 
Will this be Mick Dennis the qualified referee by any chance? :lol: What a f***ing bellend this bloke is. He's just shown that he is as incompetent as the rest of them by claiming that Brown "steamed in and threw himself, with both feet off the ground, into the challenge. But he made a clean contact with the ball and landed back on the deck about a fortnight before Adam arrived on the scene." No he didn't you f***ing idiot. Gutter press at its worst.
 
crap article, as the ref has to be sure before he makes a decision. If a ref isnt sure, or didnt see the incident, he wont (generally) send the player off, and nor should he.

this is why its much better to do f***ing nothing, than to make a 'brave' f***ing mistake.

This journo is almost patting friend on the back for having the balls to send brown off, even though it was wrong. what a absolutely terrible point he is trying to make.


how can a decision to NOT send a player off for a dangerous tackle be worse than sending a player off for nothing. this guy is a complete and utter idiot.

Surely the point he is trying to make is that friend, whilst he got it wrong and he says that, had the balls to issue a red card cos he thought the tackle merited it, where as the other two who correctly picked up on the fouls did not have the balls to send the players off when they knew they should of done cos of the flack they would of received from the aggrieved clubs, their fans and following media pack

Similar points have been made on here by various posters
 
load of shite, in the Rooney and Mirallas case, the ref could argue that he dealt with something he saw, in Browns case, he clearly made the cunt up in his own mind. You see those types of fouls quite frequently, certainly more times than a brilliant text book tackle when the other player doesn't challenge, resulting in a red. Neither incidents ruined the game as a spectacle though, should they have been reds? yes they should, but it proved a bit pf bias or the medias best get out clause of "using common sense". What Friend did smacked of total incompetence, with a touch of bias and a spoonful of corruption
 
Surely the point he is trying to make is that friend, whilst he got it wrong and he says that, had the balls to issue a red card cos he thought the tackle merited it, where as the other two who correctly picked up on the fouls did not have the balls to send the players off when they knew they should of done cos of the flack they would of received from the aggrieved clubs, their fans and following media pack

Similar points have been made on here by various posters

yes, and my point is that is complete horse shit.
 
Will this be Mick Dennis the qualified referee by any chance? :lol: What a f***ing bellend this bloke is. He's just shown that he is as incompetent as the rest of them by claiming that Brown "steamed in and threw himself, with both feet off the ground, into the challenge. But he made a clean contact with the ball and landed back on the deck about a fortnight before Adam arrived on the scene." No he didn't you f***ing idiot. Gutter press at its worst.
I think you miss the point of the article, he does not defend friend, he says he got it wrong, but he is very critical of the other two refs who didn't send players off cos in his view they were afraid to do so. If you like big club bias many complain of
 
I think you miss the point of the article, he does not defend friend, he says he got it wrong, but he is very critical of the other two refs who didn't send players off cos in his view they were afraid to do so. If you like big club bias many complain of
I think you miss the point of my post. Mick Dennis is a qualified referee yet he has completely misinterpreted the Brown challenge in the same way as Kevin Friend did, ergo anything he says should be instantly disregarded as he's a complete cock. Glad to help.
 
I think you miss the point of my post. Mick Dennis is a qualified referee yet he has completely misinterpreted the Brown challenge in the same way as Kevin Friend did, ergo anything he says should be instantly disregarded as he's a complete cock. Glad to help.

Friend is a qualified ref also but he fucked up big style end of
 
This thread is starting to show me just how hard people find it to interpret anything, even when it's in black and white right in front of them.

This little bellend journo is undermining our injustice to shoe horn his pathetic point in.
 
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I think you miss the point of my post. Mick Dennis is a qualified referee yet he has completely misinterpreted the Brown challenge in the same way as Kevin Friend did, ergo anything he says should be instantly disregarded as he's a complete cock. Glad to help.
Read the article again he says, in his usual sarcastic way of writing, that friend got it wrong, the phrase "Adam arrived a fortnight after Brown got to his feet" should of been a clue

That article is all about two refs who chickened out of sending players off cos of the flack they would of received, call it big club bias or corruption or what ever you like its a point many have made on here. Do you disagree with him and think they made good decisions to issue yellow cards[DOUBLEPOST=1385536120][/DOUBLEPOST]
This thread is starting to show me just how hard people find it to interpret anything, even when it's in black and white right in front of them.

This little bellend journo is undermining our injustice to shoe horn his pathetic point in.
It's pathetic to point out that two refs chickened out of sending players off, are you serious?[DOUBLEPOST=1385536255][/DOUBLEPOST]
Friend is a qualified ref also but he fucked up big style end of
Read the article again, he uses sarcasm not your blunt words but that's what he says
 
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He wasn't using sarcasm when he wrote "Brown steamed in and threw himself, with both feet off the ground, into the challenge." He was using hyperbole and got that wrong too. At no time in the incident was even one of Brown's feet off the ground.
 
Ah I get it now, he's blind.

No person with two functioning eyes could think wes brown 'lunged' in 'two footed'. It couldn't be further away from the truth
 
Kevin Friend's Wes Brown decision was not the worst of the weekend
MANAGER Gus Poyet went berserk and pundits condemned the referee in unison. Internet message boards, with all their unmoderated madness, called for the official to be sacked.
By: Mick Dennis
Published: Tue, November 26, 2013
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RED MIST: Kevin Friend is berated by Gus Poyet after sending off Wes Brown [GETTY]

Friend's was not the worst refereeing decision of the weekend

Kevin Friend’s sending-off of Sunderland’s Wes Brown for “fouling” Charlie Adam was almost universally lambasted.

Only almost. With predictable partisanship and lamentable hypocrisy, the opposing manager understood the decision. Stoke’s Mark Hughes was Friend’s only friend.

Brown steamed in and threw himself, with both feet off the ground, into the challenge. But he made a clean contact with the ball and landed back on the deck about a fortnight before Adam arrived on the scene.

Friend gave himself time to think about it, which is a good thing. Then he pulled out the red card, which was a bad thing.

But here’s the real thing. It was not the worst refereeing decision of the weekend.

There were two other howlers which were more unforgivable because they were more inexplicable.

Kevin Mirallas karate-kicked Luis Suarez just above the knee, yet was only cautioned. Wayne Rooney kicked and slapped Jordon Mutch but he, too, escaped with a yellow card. Yet those two mistakes did not provoke the torrents of criticism that engulfed Friend.

Understandably, Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers was miffed about that assault by Mirallas. But he only indulged in silly speculation that the poor, misunderstood Suarez would have been punished more harshly if he had been the assailant, rather than the victim. There was disappointment in referee Phil Dowd, rather than the staring-eyed anger that Poyet directed at Friend.

And after Cardiff’s draw with Manchester United, managers Malky Mackay and David Moyes seemed to have signed some sort of pact not to be too harsh about referee Neil Swarbrick.

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It was really Rooney who should have been sent off this weekend for his clash with Mutch [GETTY]

What did Mackay make of Rooney’s petulant, spiteful attack on Mutch? Um, nothing much. What did Moyes think about Marouane Fellaini being thumped in the face by Gary Medel? Not a lot. Perhaps these things just do not warrant a mention in Glasgow. All of which proves something all referees learn – you get considerably more abuse for sending someone off mistakenly than you do for giving a yellow card when, really, a red would be in order.

At any level of refereeing, you have a much easier life if you err on the side of caution. That’s just the way it is. Similarly, you get far more stick for giving a dubious penalty than for letting a defender get away with a foul in the area. As evidence of that, consider two incidents involving West Brom. Charlie Adam fouled Albion’s Youssouf Mulumbu in the Stoke area, but Howard Webb missed it. He apologised, but there wasn’t much hoo-hah.

Yet, a month later, Andre Marriner awarded Chelsea an unwarranted late penalty at home against Albion and that decision, and the apology it caused, is still reverberating around the game.

So ask yourself this – is Marriner more or less likely to give a penalty at the moment? And that is the real problem.

The way that managers and pundits respond to mistakes of commission rather than omission – doing something rather than not doing something – discourages the referees from making big calls. If we want them to have the courage to send off Rooney early on when he lashes out at an opponent, and if we want them to be brave enough to send someone off for an outrageous and hazardous challenge in an emotional Merseyside derby, then we have to be less censorious when, occasionally, someone is sent off erroneously.

Friend had to judge three objects – Brown, Adam and the ball – moving in time and space. He misinterpreted what he thought he had seen.

But, then, he had the courage to act on what he believed had happened. And in that respect, he did better than Dowd or Swarbrick.

We all need more Friends.

So basically when a red card is given against a top club player it is more wrong than if it is given to a relegation threatened club at the bottom. What a moron.
 
That article is a load of shit.
The point of his article is that two refs at the weekend took the easy option to issue yellow cards when they should of issued reds, in other words they chickened out of issuing red cards. He argues that they did so cos of the criticism thay would of received in from some seemingly powerful people in the game

You think that it's shit that refs don't apply the rules of the game cos of possible criticism, fine but I disagree
 
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