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61 Substitutions Made This Season


SuperKevsLeftBoot said:
The game started to turn and he did nowt
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Its this issue for me. having quality players requires less management but when shit gets reel that when you learn about that guy.

regis is mentally superb but lack game management and i do worry this will see is as 'also rans' rather than top 2.

Guess no one is perfect
 
I hope words have been exchanged with Speakman explaining how shit our rotation is otherwise he just looks a tit not using his subs.
 
The Situation said:
Which is by far the lowest made by managers who have a comparable amount of games under their belt this season.

It's actually lower than some managers who have already been and gone (e.g. Walters, Harris and a few others).

Wilder for example has made 108 subs, Corberan 104, Farke 97, Parker 86.

I know the argument will be that we are higher in the league than most other teams so we're doing something right, but are we leaving points behind due to a lack of changes?
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Probably because they have more quality in depth. We've had a lot of injuries and generally our changes dilute the side, they don't improve it.
 
The Situation said:
Which is by far the lowest made by managers who have a comparable amount of games under their belt this season.

It's actually lower than some managers who have already been and gone (e.g. Walters, Harris and a few others).

Wilder for example has made 108 subs, Corberan 104, Farke 97, Parker 86.

I know the argument will be that we are higher in the league than most other teams so we're doing something right, but are we leaving points behind due to a lack of changes?
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So the manager of the team 4th in the league has made far less subs than every team below them some of which are sacked managers. The three teams above us all parachute payment teams with far bigger squads have understandably made more subs?

These are the facts here.
 
The Situation said:
Which is by far the lowest made by managers who have a comparable amount of games under their belt this season.

It's actually lower than some managers who have already been and gone (e.g. Walters, Harris and a few others).

Wilder for example has made 108 subs, Corberan 104, Farke 97, Parker 86.

I know the argument will be that we are higher in the league than most other teams so we're doing something right, but are we leaving points behind due to a lack of changes?
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and yet we're 4th, a couple of points off top. Swings and rond about we could be a fair amount lower or higher. Cant really complain can we. Frustrating though letting in a late equaliser can be.
 
The Situation said:
Which is by far the lowest made by managers who have a comparable amount of games under their belt this season.

It's actually lower than some managers who have already been and gone (e.g. Walters, Harris and a few others).

Wilder for example has made 108 subs, Corberan 104, Farke 97, Parker 86.

I know the argument will be that we are higher in the league than most other teams so we're doing something right, but are we leaving points behind due to a lack of changes?
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Or are we gaining points by not making changes?
 
It’s not just subs, he’s incredibly predictable in his selections and formations. Playing very similar players and selections to last season too.
 
chopsfc007 said:
He won't change as well bris was like this in France
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Never watched a single french league game in my life. But I doubt it's as end to end, or the calender as packed, as our league. Then you have the physicality too.

His lack of rotation has annoyed us since about September. We've been on top of games and he hasn't changed owt. We've played the shit teams in this league and not changed owt. And we've played multiple games in a week and he's changed nowt.
 
I think RLB is class and take away what you will from today’s match but the longer the same lads stayed on after going 2-1 up, the more likely we were to concede. It was obvious.
 
HarrogateMackem said:
Never watched a single french league game in my life. But I doubt it's as end to end, or the calender as packed, as our league. Then you have the physicality too.

His lack of rotation has annoyed us since about September. We've been on top of games and he hasn't changed owt. We've played the shit teams in this league and not changed owt. And we've played multiple games in a week and he's changed nowt.
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Agreed what's he doing with Connolly as well brings him on loads he starts scores now we don't use him much at all he's had excuses for slow or no subs at times, but today he's had poveda, adil,alese, Connolly all that can be used at this level, wouldn't have made any changes if rigg hadn't been injured either.
Zidane said:
I think he's trying to squeeze this team through to January then hoping for reinforcements he trusts
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Why can't he trust Connolly who did well at hull,alese, Adil for longer or poveda who has done ok before In this league even for 10-15 minutes even just for fresh legs.
 
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There are a few possibilities here:

1. He doesn’t trust the squad and the players he has at his disposal so won’t make subs
2. He’s stubborn and rigid with his decision making
3. He doesn’t see the way the game might be heading

Whatever it is, if we want to challenge top two, it needs addressing.
 
HarrogateMackem said:
The lads were out on their feet at full time. Literally all of them dropped as soon as the whistle went. Every game recently they have been absolutely knackered. Can't believe he doesn't see it if I can.
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Could it be a possibility that they dropped because of the way we’d just thrown away 3 points rather than fatigue?
JL1985 said:
Some managers don’t like making subs when a game is tight. I know Pep (until this recent run) doesn’t.
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Man City used fewer subs that any other team last season and it didn’t seem to do them any harm.
 
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The Situation said:
Which is by far the lowest made by managers who have a comparable amount of games under their belt this season.

It's actually lower than some managers who have already been and gone (e.g. Walters, Harris and a few others).

Wilder for example has made 108 subs, Corberan 104, Farke 97, Parker 86.

I know the argument will be that we are higher in the league than most other teams so we're doing something right, but are we leaving points behind due to a lack of changes?
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Many of those managers could be correcting mistakes due to poor game preparation????

The underlying assumption is that making a substitution increases your chances of getting a result. Prove it.
SuperKevsLeftBoot said:
The game started to turn and he did nowt
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Apparently, we were totally outplayed in the first half but he kept faith with the starting 11 and they turned the game in our favour. Should he have made subs at halftime??
 
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PaulG said:
Many of those managers could be correcting mistakes due to poor game preparation????

The underlying assumption is that making a substitution increases your chances of getting a result. Prove it.
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A study by Bradley, Lago-Peñas and Rey entitled "Evaluation of the Match Performances of Substitution Players in Elite Soccer" was published in the International Journal of Sports Physiology and Performance in 2014.

It noted that substitutions were found to offer the benefit of enhancing the team's physical performance efficiency, thereby contributing to positive game outcomes.

It also noted that substitutions have positively affected the match outcome and goal difference in matches played.

In addition to the above, a study by Myers in 2012 entitled "A Proposed Decision Rule for the Timing of Soccer Substitutions" published in the Journal of Quantitative Analysis in Sports noted that substitutes also enhance the performance of players who have completed an entire match. Amongst other stats, substitutes were reported to exhibit a higher total distance covered and number of sprints relative to their playing time, allowing a team to sustain a higher level of physical output throughout an entire match.

Proof enough?
 
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The Situation said:
A study by Bradley, Lago-Peñas and Rey entitled "Evaluation of the Match Performances of Substitution Players in Elite Soccer" was published in the International Journal of Sports Physiology and Performance in 2014.

It noted that substitutions were found to offer the benefit of enhancing the team's physical performance efficiency, thereby contributing to positive game outcomes.

It also noted that substitutions have positively affected the match outcome and goal difference in matches played.

In addition to the above, a study by Myers in 2012 entitled "A Proposed Decision Rule for the Timing of Soccer Substitutions" published in the Journal of Quantitative Analysis in Sports noted that substitutes also enhance the performance of players who have completed an entire match. Amongst other stats, substitutes were reported to exhibit a higher total distance covered and number of sprints relative to their playing time, allowing a team to sustain a higher level of physical output throughout an entire match.

Proof enough?
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Not without quantification and some indication of the (very) marginal advantage substitutes provide.

See the Swansea game, for example. Beating us 2-1 and they threw on two subs at the 72nd minute. We scored in the 73rd and 75th minutes and won the game. You could argue that O'Nien coming on at 70 minutes contributed but that sub was due to injury. Did our unplanned sub help secure the victory or did Swansea's planned subs lead to their defeat?
 
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