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2ND ASHES TEST: LORDS

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SAFC 2012 said:
Cummins and hazelwood are tremendous and lyon is world class

Siddle.for starc on his day and that is as good as any attack aus have had for a lomg time
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magrath, brett lee, Gilespie, Shane Warne. I beg to differ mate ;) every one a match winner.....
they are a decent bowling line up at present, nothing more
about as average as you will get with an aussie team though ! as they are NEVER poor
it's all about opinions though ;)
 
We aren't going to win one match in this Ashes are we? 🤔 Was always going to be a bit after the lord mayor's show, but it doesn't look like we've prepared for this at all.
dixonsafc said:
Remember there being a thread on here where the majority picked winning the WC being more important than the ashes.

Was surprised, because red ball cricket and the ashes are the pinnacle for me.
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Still think winning the world cup is better than the Ashes, shouldn't be hard to win a two horse race held every two years
 
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wilberforce said:
magrath, brett lee, Gilespie, Shane Warne. I beg to differ mate ;) every one a match winner.....
they are a decent bowling line up at present, nothing more
about as average as you will get with an aussie team though ! as they are NEVER poor
it's all about opinions though ;)
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Like i said its as good as any attack theyve had for a long time. Must be going bacj 15 year for that attack are we?
 
SAFC 2012 said:
Like i said its as good as any attack theyve had for a long time. Must be going bacj 15 year for that attack are we?
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after they retired, along came a certain mitchel Johnson though, and he single handedly trortured us ! we just couldn't handle his pace
that's the one thing this auz line up lacks for me, genuine pace. none of them really rack up over 90 mph balls, which the last few auz teams have had at their disposal. it makes a MASSIVE difference
which is why jofra will be SO important for us
 
wilberforce said:
after they retired, along came a certain mitchel Johnson though, and he single handedly trortured us ! we just couldn't handle his pace
that's the one thing this auz line up lacks for me, genuine pace. none of them really rack up over 90 mph balls, which the last few auz teams have had at their disposal. it makes a MASSIVE difference
which is why jofra will be SO important for us
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Starc bowls 93 mph. Be will play this series at some point
 
wilberforce said:
magrath, brett lee, Gilespie, Shane Warne. I beg to differ mate ;) every one a match winner.....
they are a decent bowling line up at present, nothing more
about as average as you will get with an aussie team though ! as they are NEVER poor
it's all about opinions though ;)
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Comparing them to one of the best bowling attacks of all time though is silly. They probably have 4 of the top 10 quicks in the world to pick from aswell as one of the best spinners (especially outside of sub-continent conditions)
 
wilberforce said:
after they retired, along came a certain mitchel Johnson though, and he single handedly trortured us ! we just couldn't handle his pace
that's the one thing this auz line up lacks for me, genuine pace. none of them really rack up over 90 mph balls, which the last few auz teams have had at their disposal. it makes a MASSIVE difference
which is why jofra will be SO important for us
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Cummins?
 
smoker said:
We aren't going to win one match in this Ashes are we? 🤔 Was always going to be a bit after the lord mayor's show, but it doesn't look like we've prepared for this at all.


Still think winning the world cup is better than the Ashes, shouldn't be hard to win a two horse race held every two years
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We only just into the second test and you have decided we not going to win any!

f***ing hell man!
 
SAFC 2012 said:
Starc bowls 93 mph. Be will play this series at some point
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he is high 88s, amd bowls the odd 90 plus. he is there best bowler for me, and can't understand why he isn't playing more
cooky said:
Comparing them to one of the best bowling attacks of all time though is silly. They probably have 4 of the top 10 quicks in the world to pick from aswell as one of the best spinners (especially outside of sub-continent conditions)
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better than the great West Indian attack..... 🤔
 
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wilberforce said:
he's high 80s ! (with the odd one just touching 90 thrown in) that extra few mph makes a HUGE difference at the top level
brett lee and Johnson bowled a regular 95 mph ball, again we just couldn't live with it !
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I don't think Johnson was any more dangerous than Cummins et al in England mind. That extra speed is important at times but not the be all and end all. Look at the ICC rankings, Cummins, Anderson, Philander are 3 of top 4. The latter 2 are not quick at all by any standards.
 
cooky said:
I don't think Johnson was any more dangerous than Cummins et al in England mind. That extra speed is important at times but not the be all and end all. Look at the ICC rankings, Cummins, Anderson, Philander are 3 of top 4. The latter 2 are not quick at all by any standards.
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all good points mate, mind.... there isn't a lot of genuinely fast bowlers around atm though. Archer is the first one to arrive on the scene for some time imo. most bowlers now bowl at 85 to 89 mph. maybe it's because of injuries ? Archer seems to bowl fast at ease though, if he keeps that action he should stay injury free, and I did say should......
 
wilberforce said:
all good points mate, mind.... there isn't a lot of genuinely fast bowlers around atm though. Archer is the first one to arrive on the scene for some time imo. most bowlers now bowl at 85 to 89 mph. maybe it's because of injuries ? Archer seems to bowl fast at ease though, if he keeps that action he should stay injury free, and I did say should......
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Will be interesting to see if he maintains it at test level. I reckon he will sit around 87-89mph generally with odd quicker ball. Lots of players can fire it down at 90+ for 4 over spells in ODI's but can't maintain that bowling 20+ overs in a day. Like you say though his action seems effortless so will be interesting to watch his speeds this series. I think he will come into his own though when we go over to Australia, if we could nurse Wood to fitness them 2 could finally give us some genuine pace threat out there.
 
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