JAR7391
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I don't care who we are. This shit has went on long enough.
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19/11/16 - 5pm - Protest at the Murray Gates
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I don't care who we are. This shit has went on long enough.
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Bagpuss
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Martin O Neil Shite
Big Dick Shite
Moyes Shite
Poyet Shite
Di Canio Shite
Allardyce shite first half, miracle second half bailed due to England job but already pissed off as funds promised didnt materialise
4 of those really good managers, 2 others did well for their clubs, all failed miserably at Sunderland within months....Its almost like there was another problem. Now it seems to me there are 2 common factors that have been present all that time
a) The fans
b) Ellis Short
I wonder if its the 46,000 idiots who turn up week in week out to watch shite thats to blame, what do you reckon?
Mallard
Striker
Short is in London. A protest in Sunderland is going to put him under pressure to drop the price how?
Because obviously only Newcastle protest.
We were behaving like total mags when we protested against Murray in the 90's and 2006. Villa were behaving like mags when they protested last season. In fact, given only Newcastle fans protest we should change the word protest to "barcode". "Should we have a barcode to get Ellis out?" "Nah mate, only mags have barcodes".
It is absolutely f***ing pathetic that some of our fans are so obsessed with Newcastle/ not looking like them that they associate an act of protest, which has occurred at football clubs for decades and decades with Newcastle.
If I suggested wearing gravy stained Mag tops, dressing up in costumes and waving shitty bed sheets I would get your point. But the idea that because Newcastle fans protested Ashley over the course of a few years that Sunderland now can never protest their owner, even when we have the 11th highest debt in Europe, are being mismanaged, facing relegation and potential bankruptcy is absolutely pathetic and I cannot get my head around the mentality that would rather sit back and do nothing but be able to say "we don't look like the mags".
Mallard
Striker
Some of those managers were well backed and wasted on shite mind you. I would include Bruce in that.
The same way the "are you watching Ellis Short?" chants pushed him into defending himself.
The build up of protest puts pressure on him to sell. Whatever minimal satisfaction he still gets out of SAFC will surely disappear when he has 5,000 people calling for his head. He will want to get rid ASAP. At the moment he just seems to be twiddling his fingers.
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Bagpuss
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100% this.
Do people have a red line at which point they will say enough is enough and protest? If you wait till the window is over our only chance of survival is gone. This is the last chance the fans have to put any pressure on Short to do anything, no signings and we are gone, thats without even taking into account other sides are likely to strengthen.
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BalalaikaMiG
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What's he doing in London thats so important he couldn't spare an afternoon to watch his football club imploding.
The cowardly cowardly prick.
Sister Ray
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Bagpuss
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He wants rid, most of the money owed is to him, the only thing stopping him finding a buyer would be an unrealistic price I suspect.
Mallard
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He has business in Vietnam, should he be there daily?
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BalalaikaMiG
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Of course. If his business in Vietnam is falling apart and the managers he has hired to run this business are up to their necks in it, I would fully expect him to be there to provide some leadership and management crisis planning.
Would you not?
Why?
Do you think Short would turn down £150m for SAFC if he wasn't sure the owner had our best interests at heart
It's almost cute if you believe that.
The ONLY thing Ellis cares about is how much money he gets. Putting pressure on him to sell will drop that price. We could still end up sold to anything from an awab man to venkys. That risk is the same whether he sells for £80m or £130m. If anything, the cheaper he sells for the more money the prospective owner will have.
an owner not desperately wanting rid is ending badly for us
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Littlerobbieh
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We have no choice but to accept it. Sing short out, sack the board etc at games. Other than that the fans hands are tied
Sister Ray
Midfield
You've completely missed my point. Well done
Mallard
Striker
I think you may have unrealistic expectations
Sister Ray
Midfield
Why?
Do you think Short would turn down £150m for SAFC if he wasn't sure the owner had our best interests at heart
It's almost cute if you believe that.
The ONLY thing Ellis cares about is how much money he gets. Putting pressure on him to sell will drop that price. We could still end up sold to anything from an awab man to venkys. That risk is the same whether he sells for £80m or £130m. If anything, the cheaper he sells for the more money the prospective owner will have.
That's nothing more than supposition.
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BalalaikaMiG
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And I think you're an idiot.
He bought into a massive football club.
A club that is the heartbeat of the city in which it is based. One of the world's biggest sports clubs - at least in the top few hundred in the world
If he hasn't the time to bother with it when its in deep crisis, it was one hell of a stupid thing to buy.
But this has been shown time and time again at other clubs as instrumental in pushing owners out or getting them to change their actions.
And we have an example at SAFC when it worked very successfully with Murray.
So why are you so resigned to saying it'll do fuck all?
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