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Colly v Yardy

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NorthCountryBoy

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Who would everyone pick for the Bangla game, the pundits are saying it's a straight choice between the two.

I personally think Colly has done ok this World Cup. Finished it off v Holland when it looked dodgy (tick), failed v India when needing 8 an over coming in (cross) then whacked 16 off 11 balls in the final few overs re Ireland (tick in the circumstances).

Fair enough Bopara is ahead of him now but I think to call time on him when his bowling comes into play on Asian wickets is daft. Yardy has been rubbish this WC so I'd have Colly in at 7 for the next game.
 

I'm a bit of a Yardy supporter but have to admit I've been disapointed with him so far in this World Cup. His bowling, which I thought would be well suited to these pitches, has looked innocuous and I don't think he's shown much variety, and he's one of the last you would want coming in at 6/7 to try and hit quick runs, it's just not his style.

The problem with Pietersen going home is that it leaves us short of cover bowling, I wouldn't be wanting to play Colly and rely on 10 overs from him, and I'm not sure Bopara would do much on these type of wickets. Tough one for the selectors, I don't think we can play with just 1 spinner in the sub-continent.
 
If it was a choice between the two it would have to be Colly based on experience, fielding ability and his durability in tight situations both with bat and ball. Yardy seems to choke with the bat constantly, and never seems to offer much with the ball. Tough choice as both seem bang out of form....:neutral:
 
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Andy.SAFC said:
Collingwood.

Yardy has batted and bowled very poorly in the tournament so far.
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Agree with that. I like Yardy, but Colly can bowl off-cutters better than Yardy can bowl his flat 'spinners' at the moment.

I think Collingwood would bring a better balance to the side.

Problem is now though, Pietersen has gone home so will we have to accommodate Tredwell if we drop Yardy?
 
GarethQ said:
Agree with that. I like Yardy, but Colly can bowl off-cutters better than Yardy can bowl his flat 'spinners' at the moment.

I think Collingwood would bring a better balance to the side.

Problem is now though, Pietersen has gone home so will we have to accommodate Tredwell if we drop Yardy?
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That would leave 2 spaces ;)
 
The Breen Machine said:
I think he might have meant that we are effectively losing 2 spin options by replacing KP and Yardy, which is my worry also.
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I did indeed mean that. I'd be reluctant to drop Anderson, even though his form has been ropey. He bowled superbly against SA given the situation.

Bresnan and Broad have also bowled well, with Bresnan probably being the pick of the seamers up to now for the tournament.
 
Icarebecauseyoudo said:
Surely not a very big worry? :)
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Not massive but I'd be wary of going with just one spinner in the sub-continent, Colly can bowl his cutters but he's not an out and out spinner and on pitches like yesterday's, the value of having someone like KP as someone different to give it a bit of a rip was shown. I'm not sure Colly/Bopara could fill the gap left by dropping Yardy aswell.

GarethQ said:
I did indeed mean that. I'd be reluctant to drop Anderson, even though his form has been ropey. He bowled superbly against SA given the situation.

Bresnan and Broad have also bowled well, with Bresnan probably being the pick of the seamers up to now for the tournament.
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I wouldn't drop any of the 3 seamers, Anderson was on the brink up until yesterday but he changed the game with 2 wickets and I've always liked him as ODI bowler when he get it's right. Broad overall is our best ODI bowler and Bresnan has been excellent so far in this tournement.
 
The Breen Machine said:
Not massive but I'd be wary of going with just one spinner in the sub-continent, Colly can bowl his cutters but he's not an out and out spinner and on pitches like yesterday's, the value of having someone like KP as someone different to give it a bit of a rip was shown. I'm not sure Colly/Bopara could fill the gap left by dropping Yardy aswell.



I wouldn't drop any of the 3 seamers, Anderson was on the brink up until yesterday but he changed the game with 2 wickets and I've always liked him as ODI bowler when he get it's right. Broad overall is our best ODI bowler and Bresnan has been excellent so far in this tournement.
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It is a tough one like. I can see Yardy getting the nod over Colly for those reasons. If KP was in though, i'd bring Colly in for Yardy.
 
GarethQ said:
It is a tough one like. I can see Yardy getting the nod over Colly for those reasons. If KP was in though, i'd bring Colly in for Yardy.
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I would too, it's wrong in a sense but Yardy will probably keep his place on balance rather than form/quality, and I couldn't blame the selectors if this happened. They could drop one of the seamers for Tredwell but I'd not bother as I don't think Tredwell is international class, they won't drop a seamer anyway IMO.
 
The Breen Machine said:
I would too, it's wrong in a sense but Yardy will probably keep his place on balance rather than form/quality, and I couldn't blame the selectors if this happened. They could drop one of the seamers for Tredwell but I'd not bother as I don't think Tredwell is international class, they won't drop a seamer anyway IMO.
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I don't really rate Tredwell either. I don't think he turns it that much, and he looks like a box with a head.
 
GarethQ said:
Agree with that. I like Yardy, but Colly can bowl off-cutters better than Yardy can bowl his flat 'spinners' at the moment.

I think Collingwood would bring a better balance to the side.

Problem is now though, Pietersen has gone home so will we have to accommodate Tredwell if we drop Yardy?
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Agreed. Yardy has done well recently, particularly in T20 cricket where he seems to race through his 4 overs before the batsmen seem to get a chance to target him. But in this tournament his bowling has been too lose. He has been milked for runs and is bowling a boundary ball almost every over, and that's a dangerous combination. Colly bowled well when he has played in the WC and his batting has been better than Yardy's without being spectacular.

Icarebecauseyoudo said:
Surely not a very big worry? :)
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Not really as I dont think much of KP as a bowler. Assuming the 4 main bowlers all bowl their 10 overs that means Colly and Bopara have to share 10 overs, which I dont think is too bad.
 
Andy.SAFC said:
Not really as I dont think much of KP as a bowler. Assuming the 4 main bowlers all bowl their 10 overs that means Colly and Bopara have to share 10 overs, which I dont think is too bad.
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Me neither on these pitches
 
Icarebecauseyoudo said:
Me neither on these pitches
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I've no problem with Colly but a bit unsure on Bopara, there must be a reason he never gets a bowl for England, even behind KP and Trott..

GarethQ said:
I don't really rate Tredwell either. I don't think he turns it that much, and he looks like a box with a head.
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I remember talking to the BBC Kent cricket correspondent at Chester-Le-Street station after the championship game last year and he said without any sarcasm or humour that Tredwell was better than Swann!, and to think it was me who had been on the Stella all day :lol:
 
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