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University student stabbed


dangermows said:
We can pretend none of this plays in if you wish, but we all know your leanings and angling.
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None of that plays into this, none of it, you're just wrong.

As an officer arriving on scene you analyse the scene, that's what you're taught on day one*, you don't take into account the telephone call (which you haven't even heard) or the dispatch as gospel. You're the one that's on scene. He got his priorities badly wrong and we can't know if colour had anything to do with it, that's just speculation.

We've all seen the documentaries where the perpetrator phones in the 999 call, police are well aware of this.

*Bloke across the road is an ex-copper, these are his words.​
 
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offmenut said:
I can see reports of it - i haven't seen anything where bricks are thrown. And you showed me a link with a car windscreen put out.
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This is probably the worst I saw after the protest at the police station had dispersed.
A small group continue to goad police - it's not a widespread riot.
I live down here - Southampton is my closest city. Its a shame that Tommy robinson hijacked a protest which had a rightful cause. But the protest was generally peaceful, no matter how much people want to think otherwise as the journalists report. I've been sent loads of vids - every man and his dog had a camera there, but I've seen nothing about any damage except for thecar windscreen u sent me!. I've seen a tiny 5 second segment of police pushing back a few people who are kicking their shields , and I've seen a few bottles being thrown and a couple of wheelie bins - landing nowhere near anybody - this was all after the main protest had been dispersed from the central police station.

I can see how someone might be annoyed after seeing the police knee someone on the floor repeatedly mind.


This is exactly what I'm saying.
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Plenty of vids of bricks being thrown marra. There's one vid where a group are on a level above hoying them.

I'm not saying some people weren't peaceful by the way. In fact I'm not even arguing. I'm just saying there was violence too, including people throwing things.

Saddest thing is I'm not sure what they are protesting about. It's being made into something it isn't by those who will gain from it.
 
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tunstallhill said:
What violence happened in the UK from the BLM movement? I remember some divvies dragging the statue into the river at Bristol , but don't really remember any violence or riots over here ? Happy to be proved wrong like
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from chatGpt

"was there any violence during the BLM protests and riots in the uk?"

Yes. There was some violence associated with the 2020 Black Lives Matter (BLM) protests in the UK, but it's important to distinguish between the majority of protests, which were peaceful, and a minority of incidents that involved violence, disorder, or criminal damage.
Some examples include:
  • Police reported that around 135 people were arrested across roughly 200 BLM-related protests in the UK during one weekend in June 2020. The Home Secretary at the time described most demonstrations as peaceful but said a "lawless minority" engaged in violence. Police also reported injuries to officers.
  • In London, there were clashes between some protesters and police, including incidents where objects were thrown at officers and arrests were made for assault, violent disorder, and criminal damage.
  • In Bristol, protesters pulled down the statue of slave trader Edward Colston and threw it into the harbour. While many supporters viewed this as an act of protest against racism, critics described it as criminal damage.
 
dangermows said:
Plenty of vids of bricks being thrown marra. There's one vid where a group are on a level above hoying them.
Saddest thing is I'm not sure what they are protesting about. It's being made into something it isn't by those who will gain from it.
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I haven't seen any vids of bricks being thrown - so if you have ok. All I saw was on the telegraph where the reporter reported widespread bricking , he had a video of one person picking up a stone. I thought I'd have seen the vids as I'm obviously interested as it's a local story and have seen lots. I watched the live feed on uksploosh for a bit last night.

I agree on the second bit.
It's a fuck up by that police officer. It happens .I feel so sorry for him as he wont get over this for the rest of his life.
I don't think some white locals can understand how a young white lad on the ground saying he's been stabbed and can't breath several times can be dismissed over a lad of Asian descent who says he was the victim of a racial attack.

However they should look at Hampshire reports that you're over 4 times more likely to be forcibly restrained by the police if you're black.

The police aren't perfect. The officer dismissing a young kid saying he's been stabbed was awful - I think he assumed he was a racist and had made his mind up - that's it. It's for the police not to be too quick to judge a situation

This one copper had a f***ing bad day.
 
Bricks all owa the road there.
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offmenut said:
I haven't seen any vids of bricks being thrown - so if you have ok. All I saw was on the telegraph where the reporter reported widespread bricking , he had a video of one person picking up a stone. I thought I'd have seen the vids as I'm obviously interested as it's a local story and have seen lots. I watched the live feed on uksploosh for a bit last night.

I agree on the second bit.
It's a fuck up by that police officer. It happens .I feel so sorry for him as he wont get over this for the rest of his life.
I don't think some white locals can understand how a young white lad on the ground saying he's been stabbed and can't breath several times can be dismissed over a lad of Asian descent who says he was the victim of a racial attack.

However they should look at Hampshire reports that you're over 4 times more likely to be forcibly restrained by the police if you're black.

The police aren't perfect. The officer dismissing a young kid saying he's been stabbed was awful - I think he assumed he was a racist and had made his mind up - that's it. It's for the police not to be too quick to judge a situation

This one copper had a f***ing bad day.
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offmenut said:
I haven't seen any vids of bricks being thrown - so if you have ok. All I saw was on the telegraph where the reporter reported widespread bricking , he had a video of one person picking up a stone. I thought I'd have seen the vids as I'm obviously interested as it's a local story and have seen lots. I watched the live feed on uksploosh for a bit last night.

I agree on the second bit.
It's a fuck up by that police officer. It happens .I feel so sorry for him as he wont get over this for the rest of his life.
I don't think some white locals can understand how a young white lad on the ground saying he's been stabbed and can't breath several times can be dismissed over a lad of Asian descent who says he was the victim of a racial attack.

However they should look at Hampshire reports that you're over 4 times more likely to be forcibly restrained by the police if you're black.

The police aren't perfect. The officer dismissing a young kid saying he's been stabbed was awful - I think he assumed he was a racist and had made his mind up - that's it. It's for the police not to be too quick to judge a situation

This one copper had a f***ing bad day.
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Very good and balanced post.

As I've said before, it's not like they've just happened upon two lads and decided to give preferential treatment based on race. They've had a report of an attack from the perpetrator, who is still there accusing, along with his family. I can see why the copper has started from that point as that's the call out and usually a stabber isnt standing about waiting for the police. Also, the poor victim isn't showing any obvious signs of a stabbing.

It gives a bit of picture as to the factors playing into what was a police fuck up.
 
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dangermows said:
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They need to wheel out some other people who have had stuff damaged.
Mass damage by violent riots.

One women with two car windows. I assume unfortunately her house was where the police drew a line with shields for a few minutes
 
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One person chucking bricks at a shield mate.
It's dreadful , but it's not widescale riots
Don't think one person chucking stuff is a riot , no matter how much stuff he chucks 🤷
dangermows said:
Very good and balanced post.

As I've saud before, it's not like they've just happened upon two lads and decided to give preferential treatment based in race. They've had a report of an attack from the perpetrator, who is still there accusing, along with his family. I can see why the copper has started from that point as that's the call out and usually a stabber isnt stabding about waiting. Also, the poor victim isn't showing signs of a stabbing.

It gives a bit of picture as to the factors playing into what was a police fuck up.
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Happens once in a blue moon 😀
 
offmenut said:
I don't think some white locals can understand how a young white lad on the ground saying he's been stabbed and can't breath several times can be dismissed over a lad of Asian descent who says he was the victim of a racial attack.

However they should look at Hampshire reports that you're over 4 times more likely to be forcibly restrained by the police if you're black.

This one copper had a ******* bad day.
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I don't think ANYONE can understand how a clearly distressed and struggling bloke saying multiple times that he has been stabbed and can't breathe can be dismissed. Full stop.

I don't see how your statistic about police restraint has any relevance to the appalling treatment of Henry.

One copper had a bad day? No, 3 coppers failed to exercise a basic dury of care, not to mention normal human decency.

Come on man.
 
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