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University student stabbed

“Just shut up and ignore what the whole world has just seen”
Im sure you were taking the knee and all that jazz as well weren't you, the police arrive cuff him, are a bit sarcy then can see he's been stabbed then the last thing you hear is they call an ambulance, they literally called him and ambulance once they saw he was stabbed.
 

Im sure you were taking the knee and all that jazz as well weren't you, the police arrive cuff him, are a bit sarcy then can see he's been stabbed then the last thing you hear is they call an ambulance, they literally called him and ambulance once they saw he was stabbed.
You mean a lad in an absolute mess tells them he has been stabbed and can't breathe 14 times and they take the piss, cuff him on the floor and then panic when they realise what he told them is true.

It's an absolute disgrace and your an absolute disgrace as well.
 
....and here we go, the thread is now turning into the usual blah blah blah.. even tho the UK Sikh Federation have utterly condemned the actions of the family. Still not enough. But this terrible tragedy has nothing to do with being Sikh. It's about one shitty person and his shitty family. Oh and unfortunately bad policing, which also happens a lot across communities.

No one should be allowed to carry a knife because of religion.

Your enitre post is just an excuse and a shit attempt at making out like the sikh community are the real victims here.
You mean a lad in an absolute mess tells them he has been stabbed and can't breathe 14 times and they take the piss, cuff him on the floor and then panic when they realise what he told them is true.

It's an absolute disgrace and your an absolute disgrace as well.

Change it to a black lad and this fella is 100% in the streets protesting and losing his mind at what has happened.

His attitude is exactly what happens when people are taught that white people can't really be wronged or face racism. It's just utter denial. Like a malfunctioning robot that is programmed not to accept it.
 
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No one should be allowed to carry a knife because of religion.

Your enitre post is just an excuse and a shit attempt at making out like the sikh community are the real victims here.
No it bloody isn't. Your posts have just been an attempt to tar a whole community ....as usual.....and turn a horrible tragedy into your usual two tier justice, labour are crap bollocks soapbox.

Like I said earlier it was a terrible tragedy committed by a terrible family. NOT a crime committed by a community

And was exacerbated by some bloody poor policing.
 
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It's extremely harrowing that the last words the lad has heard are that he was being arrested himself after being stabbed.

I've watched the body cam footage now and whilst I do agree that the police were mislead by the murderer and his family. As soon as someone claims they have been stabbed and blood is visible. Removing his coat and shirt to check for a wound should be priority over cuffing someone that is barely moving...
 
It's extremely harrowing that the last words the lad has heard are that he was being arrested himself after being stabbed.

I've watched the body cam footage now and whilst I do agree that the police were mislead by the murderer and his family. As soon as someone claims they have been stabbed and blood is visible. Removing his coat and shirt to check for a wound should be priority over cuffing someone that is barely moving...
It’s absolutely staggering. The police just hire so many genuinely stupid people now as no one wants to do the job. They should be facing criminal charges themselves. At the very least they should be sued and sacked.
 
You mean a lad in an absolute mess tells them he has been stabbed and can't breathe 14 times and they take the piss, cuff him on the floor and then panic when they realise what he told them is true.

It's an absolute disgrace and your an absolute disgrace as well.
Think about the context, it's late at night they probably think he's pissed, once they see that's not the case they ring an ambulance, would you want th police to ring an ambulance every time some tells them they've been stabbed or can't breathe, because I promise you that happens to them every weekend up and down the country.
 
It's extremely harrowing that the last words the lad has heard are that he was being arrested himself after being stabbed.

I've watched the body cam footage now and whilst I do agree that the police were mislead by the murderer and his family. As soon as someone claims they have been stabbed and blood is visible. Removing his coat and shirt to check for a wound should be priority over cuffing someone that is barely moving...
So all that happens then is dangerous individuals pretend they've been stabbed the police don't cuff them but check their body for wounds and the police are then stabbed themselves.
 
Think about the context, it's late at night they probably think he's pissed, once they see that's not the case they ring an ambulance, would you want th police to ring an ambulance every time some tells them they've been stabbed or can't breathe, because I promise you that happens to them every weekend up and down the country.
If it was the other way round you’d not be saying that
I've had to avoid this thread for a bit as it makes me feel deep rage. RIP Henry, I hope further justice is achieved for him as the police have a lot to answer for (hope the evil fuck that killed him has a horrid time in prison).
Probably not. He’ll likely attack someone with a weapon and the staff will believe him and whisk away the victim and believe he’s the instigator.
 
Think about the context, it's late at night they probably think he's pissed, once they see that's not the case they ring an ambulance, would you want th police to ring an ambulance every time some tells them they've been stabbed or can't breathe, because I promise you that happens to them every weekend up and down the country.

I defended the police when I first read the story, mainly due to the reasons you state. They are dealing with a fast moving situation. But the policeman has to drag the lad from behind / under the car. He can barely breathe or move. There's blood around, so he should be ignoring what the family say and removing his clothing to check for wounds before cuffing him.

The female officer had the right thought process, when the family were telling her that he hasn't been stabbed - she told them ok but we have to check ourselves. Just a shame that she couldn't have taken command over the situation instead of the male officer who sounds useless and just wants to get the cuffs on.
So all that happens then is dangerous individuals pretend they've been stabbed the police don't cuff them but check their body for wounds and the police are then stabbed themselves.

He is barely moving and the copper has to drag him from behind the car...
 
No one should be allowed to carry a knife because of religion.

Your enitre post is just an excuse and a shit attempt at making out like the sikh community are the real victims here.


Change it to a black lad and this fella is 100% in the streets protesting and losing his mind at what has happened.

His attitude is exactly what happens when people are taught that white people can't really be wronged or face racism. It's just utter denial. Like a malfunctioning robot that is programmed not to accept it.
Am I shite man, I'm just looking at the situation from a perspective of someone who's done very similar roles over my life and it's a coin flip of you believe one person or another, what I will say is that the human mind is conditioned to believe the first thing it hears, so any professional has to guard against relying on that instinct, in this case that's what has happened it isn't racism it isn't bias, it's just a human mind trying to unpick the situation and they have gone with what they were told until they realize that's not correct then they ring an ambulance.

And the scary part is absolutely most of us would have done the exact same thing in that situation.
 
I defended the police when I first read the story, mainly due to the reasons you state. They are dealing with a fast moving situation. But the policeman has to drag the lad from behind / under the car. He can barely breathe or move. There's blood around, so he should be ignoring what the family say and removing his clothing to check for wounds before cuffing him.

The female officer had the right thought process, when the family were telling her that he hasn't been stabbed - she told them ok but we have to check ourselves. Just a shame that she couldn't have taken command over the situation instead of the male officer who sounds useless and just wants to get the cuffs on.


He is barely moving and the copper has to drag him from behind the car...
Super Mario has an agenda
 
Think about the context, it's late at night they probably think he's pissed, once they see that's not the case they ring an ambulance, would you want th police to ring an ambulance every time some tells them they've been stabbed or can't breathe, because I promise you that happens to them every weekend up and down the country.
I'd prefer they checked someone who says they've been stabbed before pushing their face into the floor, cuffing them and taking the piss out of them, letting them die with the last thing they see in life is themselves being arrested because a scumbag stabbed them.

That would make more sense than the absolute drivel you've been spouting for days.
 
I defended the police when I first read the story, mainly due to the reasons you state. They are dealing with a fast moving situation. But the policeman has to drag the lad from behind / under the car. He can barely breathe or move. There's blood around, so he should be ignoring what the family say and removing his clothing to check for wounds before cuffing him.

The female officer had the right thought process, when the family were telling her that he hasn't been stabbed - she told them ok but we have to check ourselves. Just a shame that she couldn't have taken command over the situation instead of the male officer who sounds useless and just wants to get the cuffs on.


He is barely moving and the copper has to drag him from behind the car...
He would have had to drag him out to check his wounds as well, the comment he's made is horrible mind but as I have said a few times, once he was seen to be bleeding an ambulance was called. This is just a terrible situation in which the person to blame has been found guilty and there is no racist angle.

For context this kind of thing happens throughout the country people get arrested then de arrested due to a heat attack or because new information comes to light and the consequences are not as stark as they were here.
I'd prefer they checked someone who says they've been stabbed before pushing their face into the floor, cuffing them and taking the piss out of them, letting them die with the last thing they see in life is themselves being arrested because a scumbag stabbed them.

That would make more sense than the absolute drivel you've been spouting for days.
And that statement whilst I'm sure is well meaning doesn't reflect what the police deal with on a day to day basis.
Super Mario has an agenda
Do I? That seems like more mind reading and more bias.
 
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He would have had to drag him out to check his wounds as well, the comment he's made is horrible mind but as I have said a few times, once he was seen to be bleeding an ambulance was called. This is just a terrible situation in which the person to blame has been found guilty and there is no racist angle.

For context this kind of thing happens throughout the country people get arrested then de arrested due to a heat attack or because new information comes to light and the consequences are not as stark as they were here.

I'm not claiming anything to do with racism. I just think that the copper has made a huge error of judgement and unfortunately the lad involved has passed away, which makes the error of judgement worse. It is only around 2 minutes of body cam footage from when he drags him from the car until he's unresponsive, so it's not a massively prolonged period.

I'm aware as well that when police turn up to an incident people lie to them regularly...but when a lad is telling you he's been stabbed and can't breathe and is pretty much motionless then your first action should be to ensure there are no wounds...He's basically stuck dying behind the car when the video starts...
 
I'm not claiming anything to do with racism. I just think that the copper has made a huge error of judgement and unfortunately the lad involved has passed away, which makes the error of judgement worse. It is only around 2 minutes of body cam footage from when he drags him from the car until he's unresponsive, so it's not a massively prolonged period.

I'm aware as well that when police turn up to an incident people lie to them regularly...but when a lad is telling you he's been stabbed and can't breathe and is pretty much motionless then your first action should be to ensure there are no wounds...He's basically stuck dying behind the car when the video starts...
In the video they are looking for wounds once they have th me cuffs on him, what they're doing is protecting themselves due to past reviews indicating that perpetrators pretending to be injured then if they fail to cuff them they attack the police, they have cuffed him for their own protection then checked for wounds now in normal instances the wounds are life threatening but not to the level they were for this lad. Clearly a lot of blood loss meant he wasn't going to survive either way but had his wounds not been as bad it would have been the very police being berated in this thread that would have saved his life.
 
Am I shite man, I'm just looking at the situation from a perspective of someone who's done very similar roles over my life and it's a coin flip of you believe one person or another, what I will say is that the human mind is conditioned to believe the first thing it hears, so any professional has to guard against relying on that instinct, in this case that's what has happened it isn't racism it isn't bias, it's just a human mind trying to unpick the situation and they have gone with what they were told until they realize that's not correct then they ring an ambulance.

And the scary part is absolutely most of us would have done the exact same thing in that situation.

"And the scary part is absolutely most of us would have done the exact same thing in that situation."

I wouldn't of. I wouldn't just believe a brown man because he said someone is racist and go and handcuff someone. Let alone the fact he is saying he can't breathe and he has been stabbed. What were the cuffs even needed for? He's hardly looking like he is going to make an escape.

The officers choose to believe the brown man because they see racism as a bigger thing than a white boy saying he has been stabbed.

Why would you of acted the same and believed the brown man? Since when is that a normal policing response?

Us white people are a bit fucked aren't we if non white people can just say erm he's racist and then we get handcuffed.
 
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