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Discounts for OAPs
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DisillusionedOldGit
Winger
hope notThe OP will be old one day
After the 60 odd years of mostly misery I've had watching Sunderland they should pay me to go.
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Don’t get me started on inheritance tax.
Backwards that you worked, were taxed on your wages, contributed to your pension and the government took their cut from that.
Why should the same money that’s already been taxed be taxed a final time because you’ve hit a threshold of assets.
You’re just taking money from grieving families at that point.
I understand the point of it but it’s always seemed in bad faith to have a parent die, have property and money assets over say £350k.
For the government to come along and go ‘sorry for your loss, anyway we’re taking 40% of that’
Struts
Winger
I don’t think people should be able to receive millions without paying some sort of tax on it.
A tax on people daft enough not to get their affairs in order . A bit like jury service is a service for people not clever enough to get out of it
spitfire
Striker
I think some OAPs may have been better off keeping their cocks in their pants and their legs closed, in seeing what they have spawned on this thread. I bet those who are vehemently against the oldies don't dare say what they think to their elderly parents or grandparents assuming they are still lucky enough to have them alive. Some absolute shite being spouted in this thread.
DisillusionedOldGit
Winger
By people who are financial failures. Imagine being envious of people who have less spent on them than arseholes who are in jail.
Mousehold Mackem
Midfield
Don't start on juries. Or inheritance tax.
I did wonder if the OP had parents...
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My parents ( both now dead) were in the best place financially when they were retired than they ever were when both were working. I didn’t begrudge that one bit however I would support giving the little extras to working families as opposed to those who have lots of other benefits.
NorbertColon
Midfield
Serious question,how do you get out of jury service?
Asking for a friend.
London, Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales all get pensioners bus passes at 60, it's 67 for most of us in the rest of England.
It's the worst kind of discrimination, the kind against me. ( Bender, Futurama).
Me and the missus will both qualify for our state pensions at the same time, our income will go up from £1k a month to 3k a month, heck of a difference.
Apart from free travel on buses ( which is underfunded and part of the reason services are constantly being cut) there's not much else I am interested in.
42
Striker
Tell them you have bigotted views, and you couldn't possibly reach an impartial opinion
NorbertColon
Midfield
There’s loads of ways. The job you do, the impact it will have on the job you do. Health of you and family. Family commitments. The list is endless.
I agree but it’s people at the lowest threshold who pay it.
People who have millions have the means to hide assets so they avoid paying it anyway.
Much like any other tax being honest.
Those loopholes are available to everyone. But let’s be honest , the lowest threshold probably won’t have assets to that value
I suppose so but it still but my uncle when he died had a house worth £400k and loads more in various banks, investment platforms etc.
Then pensions, death in service benefits after he died.
Sudden death so didn’t have the time to untangle all of that.
Paid out most in inheritance tax and his lass and son got was left
My grandad on the other hand was tighter than two coats of paint, had a modest house, just over £130k value and I don’t think he spent anything since 1974.
Had about 15 grand in the bank, everything paid out in full for funerals in advance, but had 3 big safes in the house rammed with cash, had it falling out of cupboards and old drawers, my dad is still adamant they probably missed some somewhere.
He used to complain to my dad he was getting sent money every week and didn’t need it so just put it in the safe because he didn’t need it.
Pulled out daft amounts in the hundred thousands once it was all counted easily about £400k +
Paid nothing as he didn’t trust banks and because we couldn’t work out where it had come from.
Which again didn’t sit right with me either.
Swings and roundabouts I suppose but It’s never sat right with me that whatever you earn in your lifetime the government can take in what amounts to a tax on dying and having money, reinforces that fiddling the system to avoid it and hiding money is the way to avoid it, which is equally as murky and morally wrong as the government just taking it to begin, modern problems, modern solutions.
spitfire
Striker
Not quite for London. In London we can apply for a 60+ Oyster card for 18 quid a year once you reach 60. Free travel on buses, tubes etc after 9 and on trains which aren’t part of TfL after half 9 on weekdays and free travel all weekend within Oyster zones 1 to 6. Still a hell of a perk mind.
The exact kind of attitude that has led to the unhealthy veneration of OAPs as some kind of saintly cohort who had better values and worked so much harder.
Fuck the triple lock, fuck the free bus pass, fuck the free prescriptions - scrap the lot
42
Striker
You need to consider what money is & how its created. Its basically a government created iou that facilitates trade.
The wealthier you are, the less that gets spend on consumption (which is then clawed back from government in tax), and more spent on asset accumulation. Those assets then generate more income & essentially grow exponentially.
Fundamentally you need a system that has an element of wealth distribution built in otherwise the capitalist democracy fails & you end up with an inheritocracy and possibly even fuedalism.
And what were seeing now is a result of not enough being done on the redistribution front.
